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07 March 2012

SOME COUNCIL CANDIDATES RUNNING NONSENSICAL, UNETHICAL, OR JUST PLAIN BULLSHIT CAMPAIGNS

While the blog hasn't yet decided what councillor candidates we're supporting, we are starting to see the candidates divide into two camps - the first being the "judge us on our record" camp (this includes both current councillors as well as candidates with a long record of community activism and involvement).  The second camp is the "say any bullshit we think the public is stupid enough to go for".  Clearly an election tactic that has worked in the past.


In a local government election, we'd hope the candidates with recognition in their communities by their neighbours will win the day, regardless of political stripe.  Left or right has little to do with the proper function of local government.


So when we see candidates who've never picked up a piece of trash in their life (according to voters in Division 7) posting pictures of themselves at "community clean-up's", the thinking members of the public are naturally suspicious of the candidate's motives.  




Several council candidates are also using the "social media" like Facebook and Twitter.  Much of what has been spotted is at the very least deceitful.  Two examples sent to the blog:

Unity Candidate for Division 5 is Richie Bates, a Labor official and erstwhile candidate for several public offices, all unsuccessful.  


His social media ads include this one, a dishonest attempt to blame Mayor Val Schier for Cairns unemployment and business failures. The current Mayor and Council have had zero to do with the slow Cairns economy, and in fact have attempted to stimulate the Cairns construction industry with fee-waivers for shovel ready projects, and the final approval of the Entertainment Precinct.  Richie should perhaps talk to federal or state pollies if he's got a complaint about the economy. 


How many pieces of silver did you get from the Manning Team to tell blatant falsehoods, eh Richie? Funny but I don't see any of the other Manning/Byrne Unity Team spouting such bald-faced lies!  Sucker, or high achiever, which is it, Richie?   


And with zero small business experience, Bates would seem to have little practical knowledge about business survival.  However the Unity Team election message is "Cairns economic revival", a message which is obviously coming too late with Cairns already starting to return to growth.

As a member of the Margaret Cochrane Community Alliance Team, Steve Grasso is of course now pushing hockey - a pet project of Cochrane's.  In his internet ads, he's asking a question that Cr. Forsyth claims is misleading and incorrect.  This is a despicable election tactic - innocently posing a question about your opponent to the voters that in fact pushes a lie.  This kind of negative electioneering is sadly now come to local council elections.  Decisions like this are made by a majority of councillors.  



27 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hillbilly, have you heard anuthing more about the Bonneau/Pyne/Blake saga???? Would love to hear your feelings on these goings on!!!!
Boss Hog

Anonymous said...

If Richie Bates needs to make up such bullshit to try and get elected it is no wonder that the Labour party chose Kirsten Lesina to run in the seat of Cairns instead of him. You've lost me Richie ...... I thought you had some integrity.... I was obviously very Wrong

Curly Joe said...

I am also disappointed in Bate's comments about "Val's unemployment lines." Does he really believe the Council is all about creating economic growth in the region? That isn't the function of Councils and I'm amazed Bates doesn't know this.

Bus. Op. said...

Sad to see candidates belting away at their so called opponents and blaming just one single lone person for all of Cairns economic woes. It is a diversion from any meaningful debate about what THEY will do when they win office. I note Richie Bates hasn't offered up what the Unity Team are going to do to "reduce Val's unemployment lines."

Anon No 4 said...

Bates's comments are just another example of the misogynistic, uninformed, dishonest and personalised attacks that have typified the business campaign against Mayor Schier and Labor generally.

I call on him to explain on this blog how the "unemployment lines" are Val's.

I call on him to explain to me precisely what he is going to do to as a Councillor to increase employment, and to provide detailed costings and an estimate of their impact on our rates.

Anonymous said...

Anon No4.....Call on him all you like, but if you come on here & disagree with the premise of this blog, then your comments will be "edited" or will not appear at all.

JOHN MACKENZIE'S HILLBILLY WATCH said...

Like any reasonable publication, freedom of speech has limits, including yelling "fire" in a crowded theatre.

And for the record there isn't any function in Google Blogger that allows comments to be "edited" by anyone. The only option, for comments from Google-verified users, is deletion by the author.

Destiny Prophet said...

Apparently in Cairns only the 3 snooty pretentious gay lefty feral hippies who vote for Val go to theatres, so yelling 'fire' will be quite ok.

You may not however yell fire at a crowded cock fight, bear baiting or titty show.

Forsyth's Toy-boy said...

Hey thrill-billy wanker.
Come on and tell us about how wronged Sno (Max T Brown) was by "look at me" Pyne as the earlier poster has requested.

Easy to sling fictitious shit isn't it?

You might as well start running a fund to help "look at me" pay off the $300,000 damages that rightfully belongs to Sno (Max T Brown)

The slander and libel has hurt him and his family and an apology from yourself to Sno (Max T Brown) wouldn't be a bad idea.

And while you're at it - get stuffed.

Anonymous said...

I for one salute the omnipotetnt intellectual giant who humbly uses the nom de plume Forsyths Toyboy. For here is an example of the insightful wisdom that is abundant in our fair city and makes this town the cultural centre and indeed,rightfully, the capital of North Queensland. ...But wait.....What do you mean...? It's not...? It's full of moronic bogans?? Nooooooooooooo....

Anonymous said...

Well I once supported Richie Bates but he has really lost me forever for attacking Val in the manner he has. Richie you are a RAT and you know what that means. Charlie

Smithfield Sam said...

I agree Charlie, RAT is the right description. I've never given much thought to a council candidate's politics, as I don't think it's relevant to managing the council. I give most weight to community engagement and ethics. Bates has always scored high on community engagement, but he's now revealed his ethics are those of a sewer rat. We can't elect someone with morals that are variable depending on who might be the highest bidder.

Curly Joe said...

Meanwhile Grasso has joined the cabal of slick and cunning poseurs manipulating the sports/arts divide in the city.

Liz said...

Bates is using what he perceives is the unpopularity of Val Schier to promote himself. This isn't unusual in any election, however my impressions are that the community has started resisting the media "hate" campaign. It is hard to know just when this happened. I suspect reeaction has been setting in and gathering traction for some time. Evidence of change in the communitys perceptions of Val can be seen in the way people gravitate to her once she attends a gathering. (Stand back and watch!) The "hate" website in her name has slowed right down to a stop and in conversations with people, most acknowledge she has been ruthlessly bullied and smeared by John Mackenzie. Mackenzie's friendship with Kevin Byrne seems to be very well known within the community.
Finally, Bates is sending out very mixed messages to the community. He initially sent out messages saying he was a "team player" and wanted unity of the Council above all else. He has made public statements on his website condemning the councillors for "not working together collegially" . Yet here we have in his latest post, a very clear opinion that he does not want to work with Val Schier if she is elected Mayor. Mr Bates is obviously very selective himself when it comes to who he wants to work with in a "collegial" manner.
I put it to him that he is every bit as "bad" as the Councillors he has condemned!! Had he been genuine, he would be stating he would work "collegially" with whoever was elected.

athena said...

It is disappointing to see Bates join with the group denigrating and smearing Val. Bates might like to reflect that Val has acted ethically in that she has never sunk to the lows of her detractors even when the going was tough. Would he do the same?

bogan said...

You forgot to add footie matches there, Destiny Prophet.

Whale oil beef hooked said...

Hey Liz ...

Val is her own worst enemy.

Just ask the palm tree brigade at Port Douglas.

The palm tree chopping "to provide a sustainable alternative regeneration propagation diversity" will cost her many hundreds of votes".

What mandate has this one term Council to remove the swaying idyllic, and iconic palm tree heritage from our beachfronts?

Liz said...

That "swaying, idyllic and iconic palm tree heritage" along Four Mile Beach is probably close to a hundred years old Whale Oil. I believe most intelligent people understand that trees, even the exalted palm tree, can't live forever.

Anonymous said...

CRC Candidate's Campaign 2012:

1. Photo of me looking INDUSTRIOUS picking up litter.
2. Photo of me looking KIND helping little old lady across street.
3. Photo of me looking KIND feeding dog at YAPS
4. Photo of me looking SENSITIVE sitting beside old
person in Nursing Home.
5. Photo of me looking CARING standing alongside homeless person at Food Van in Munro Martin Park.
6. Photo of me looking SPORTS MAD sitting in crowd at Cazaly Stadium.
7. Photo of me looking PROUD with Joe Blake.
8. Photo of me looking COMMUNITY MINDED at Lions fundraiser.
9. Photo of me looking COMMUNITY MINDED at Rotary fundraiser.
10. Photo of me looking ARTISTIC at Cairns Art Gallery talking to artist.
11. Photo of me looking ARTY at JUTE watching play.
12. Photo of me looking MUSICAL at Cairns Civic Theatre.
13. Photo of me looking SERIOUS at Cairns school.
14. Photo of me looking INTELLECTUAL at James Cook University.

Yeah, it's hard work alright!!

Anonymous said...

Richie, there is a reason you were not selected by the ALP. They to could see through your shallow, narrow mindedness. You have no credibility, you are a want to be politician with no morals, ethics or human decency. Joining Council advisory groups will not give you any idea of what a community really want. I hope people see you for what you really are, a low life gutter rat.

Anonymous said...

Richie, there is a reason you were not selected by the ALP. They to could see through your shallow, narrow mindedness. You have no credibility, you are a want to be politician with no morals, ethics or human decency. Joining Council advisory groups will not give you any idea of what a community really want. I hope people see you for what you really are, a low life gutter rat.

SAPPHO said...

Bates has lost me as well. Rather than continue to put the boot into Val Schier, and blaming her for everything, he would have been better off posting announcements of the Cairns Unity Teams Policies. Despite all his claims to being a team player he has clearly demonstrated that he isn't. This coming Council Election will clearly see the Election of a mixed group of people, conservatives and progressives. Bates has already picked his "side" and demonstrated he can be as antagonistic and provocative as the Council members he claims to despise.

SAPPHO said...

Bates has lost me as well. Rather than continue to put the boot into Val Schier, and blaming her for everything, he would have been better off posting announcements of the Cairns Unity Teams Policies. Despite all his claims to being a team player he has clearly demonstrated that he isn't. This coming Council Election will clearly see the Election of a mixed group of people, conservatives and progressives. Bates has already picked his "side" and demonstrated he can be as antagonistic and provocative as the Council members he claims to despise.

bogan said...

My word Anonymous, with all those photos proving how connected you are to the community, you are gonna shit it into Council. PS You might need one more photo, mate, of youself kissing a palm tree I reckon.

Buzz said...

Hmmm, Anonymous, I think you've overdone the "kind, sensitive and caring" bizzo with your campaigning. People will think you are a fucken do-gooder. You should leave all of those out and have more photos at sports functions. One wrestling with a croc as ACTION MAN would be a vote catcher, ditto bungy jumping. And I wouldn't get up too close and cosy with a palm tree either or people will think you're a fucken pinko, greenie, tree huggin' gay lefty pothead. Post a photo of yourself with a dead feral pig as ENVIRONMENTALIST.

bogan said...

bewdy Buzz mate. Reckon you would make someone a brilliant campaign manager hey.

Destiny Prophet said...

Today I've had 4 emails from strangers telling me how much they like me and how much they love Hillbilly and, by the way, do I know who he is?

It may have been less suspicious if they had decided who should send the email instead of all doing it.

I don't have the slightest clue who Hillbilly is, by the way, nor any real interest - just glad someone is fighting the good fight and providing an alternative point of view.