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11 May 2012

THE REHABILITATION OF GEOFF GUEST AND PETFORD - WHEN ARE WE TOLD WHAT REALLY WAS GOING ON THERE?

TRUST YOUR YOUNG BOY WITH THIS GUY?
One of Cueball MacKenzie's promotions going back 15 or so years was Geoff Guest, who ran an "Aboriginal Youth Camp" in the Tablelands called the "Petford Training Farm".  Continually promoted as a whiz with troubled Aboriginal youth, MacKenzie has again begun promoting Geoff Guest and even pushing the concept onto Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King this morning.  King agreed that "professionals at the coal face like Guest will be instrumental in the LNP plans to deal with the youth crime problem".


And yet there has been little to no explanation of why, with a massive police intervention, the Guest farm was closed and the children (young boys generally 12-15 years of age) were taken away by the Beattie Queensland government in 2002.  


Closure of the Guest farm was in fact the #1 recommendation of the Commission of Inquiry into Abuse of Children in Queensland Institutions.  


That the Department continue to give effect to the recommendation of the Daffen Report 1998 that funding to Petford Training Farm as a residential facility for young people be terminated.



Much of the critical issues in the report were deemed confidential and have never been released to the public.  However it should be noted that the Queensland government provided "compensation payments" to those victimised at the camp, without ever disclosing the reasons for these payments.

After the Petford Training Farm was closed, MacKenzie led a vociferous attack against the government for closing this facility, painting Geoff Guest as a "victim".  And the next time Cueball had Peter Beattie in the interview chair, he asked Beattie to explain, and was told in no uncertain terms that the government had adequate evidence to close the facility.  MacKenzie was also said to have been counseled privately on the issue, and Geoff Guest disappeared from the list of frequent callers.

Until now, with the LNP in the captain's chair.  

We've also been counseled about the issues surrounding the closure.  In fact one social worker close to the investigation has suggested that only his age at the time (76) kept him from being charged and jailed.  What is being covered up?  

And now MacKenzie, who today famously announced that Cairns now has over 1300 "drunks and criminals from the communities" living rough in Cairns, is again promoting Geoff Guest as having a solution for the growing crime problem with young people in Cairns.  And why after being clearly told the reasons for the closure is John MacKenzie again promoting this individual, essentially participating in the coverup?  

If Geoff Guest is going to be rehabilitated and embraced by Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King and the LNP, the public deserves to be told what caused the sudden closure of the Petford Training Farm and the payment of compensation to some unknown number of young boys resident at the location.


45 comments:

Dean said...

This is why things shouldn't be swept under the rug. Enough time goes by and people who should have been charged are thrust back into the spotlight by people with short memories. Send a bunch of kids to be abused by an octogenarian, great plan, numbnuts.

There's no doubt there's a problem, but it's been going on for decades, why do these old-balls think old solutions which didn't work then will all of a sudden work now?

Anonymous said...

It seems strange that the reason have not been made public and that being 76 prevented prosecution. This doesn't prevent prosecution in other cases??? Maybe the reason for the cover up are other than is thought. Further, it has not been proposed or even suggested that Guest be in charge again, merely that he advise those who are to run any new program and provide his insights.

ruby red dress said...

I was in the public service in 1991and there were rumours then about happenings at Petford. No, I cannot be specific, because there were a cluster of rumours and no-one "at the top" confirmed anything. At the same time, there was a hostel being run by the Reverend Gordon King, an Anglican Minister in Cairns. Rumours of paedophilia were circulating the town, and in 1993 or 1994 King was jailed for sexual abuse. Seems the Rev. King was sentenced for the same crime in Perth in 1956.

jim-bob snr. said...

Gavin King arrived in Cairns around 2006 or so. He wasn't here when the Petford scandal blew up, and he doesn't listen to locals for anything only his very close mate, Mackenzie. Hence, we will go around again in another circle, probably ending up with legal action being taken against the LNP Government. It's all that is happening with this city lately, going round and round in circles.

Whale oil beef hooked! said...

Maybe the Beattie Govmint just fucked up again.

Like the HEINER affair ... shredded before it could be made public.

I am hoping that Manning releases the Henry report that Val kept secret.

D.J.HUNT said...

Was funny to hear the Member for Cairns squirm when Macca put it on him about the 18mth time line for action on AMP's compared to his "in our first term" line and say "I'll have to defer to the boss on that one then".Big surprise there after CEP and Tier 1funding for CBH promises pulled by the Premier of Brisbane. Like a whipped dog pissing itself in the corner. Not as cringeworthy as Pearl calling him the member for sweet meat though

Anonymous said...

HBW, I have friends who live in that area and I feel that I should not say on here what their feelings are in regards to what has happened at this place. These rumours are not good. I definately would not be a supporter of reopening this Youth Camp. For some reason the LNP seem to hold this place in high regard. LNP people should talk to the locals and get their opinion before even thinking of reopening. I also have driven past the Youth Camp recently. It is an absolute mess. One of the buildings was partially unroofed about 6 years ago and is still unroofed. Typically Cueball carries on as he does without so much as checking before opening his big mouth and spruking the bullshit on this Youth Camp. It had its heyday over fifteen years ago and yet poor silly Cueball is trying to give life to something that has been dead for years. I cannot beleive he is also promoting a person who is also well into his eighties. How in the bloody hell could he control young teenage boys when our high school teachers have great difficulty in doing this. When is someone in Authority going to take Cueball to task. Surely he cannot be allowed to continue to spruik the absolute bullshit that he does. Charlie..

Anonymous said...

white man you tink you can hurt our man. our gudishi man is after you and you leave your foot print every where, say good bye to your love one.

Anonymous said...

The Reverend Gorden King was a regular on the McKenzie show back then, always big noting himself and his good deeds with McKenzie lapping it up. Until he turned out to be a kiddie fiddler of course...

Anonymous said...

Cueball seems to attract people like the Reverend Gorden King to his ahow all the time. He accepts everything on face value without checking or even googling to find out more about people he promotes. The worst part about it is those stupid followers of the Cueball Show who actually beleive every thing Cueball says go out and repeat the bullshit to who ever is silly enough to listen. Surely something can be done to get the Cueball Show exposed for the bullshit that it is. Charlie.

Anon No. 4 said...

Petford was an evil place, promoted by the likes of Stench, so it would be no surprise at all to see the Rapist stepping in. there are still indigenous men round here who were victoms of the dreadful abiuse that occurred there. It warrants a proper independent investigation, but given its connections to the LNP, that is just not going to happen. What is more likely that is that it will reopen as a supplier of fresh indigenous meat to a new bunch of predators.

Liz said...

I wasn't in Cairns either to know much about this Petford Youth Training Centre, however I understand it involved teaching youths about station life, riding and care for horses. It might have been good for some youth, but surely commonsense would dictate not All youths. Horses are a powerful and at times, temperamental beast. What would happen if a youth was genuinely terrified of such a creature? I can only image that for some children, already suffering from dysfunctional families, the experience would be traumatic.

Jed Clambutt said...

Mackenzie is showing the world he doesn't give a shit about the welfare of aboriginal kids, the racist, malignant bastard. Gavin King wasn't here when it all happened so he doesn't know jack-shit, just like he wasn't here when Mackenzie lead the war against a brand new hospital. Just a thought, I wonder if the Reverend Gordon King is related to our new State Member?

jim-bob jnr. said...

You are right Anon No 4, the LNP look set to re-open the place for a fresh set of predators. Oh there will be enormous media fanfare, the likes of Damon Guppy who obviously had a wet dream doing the fawning, sycophantic write up of Masthead Manning in todays compost, will slobber and swoon all over Stench and Trout for their "compassion" towards indigenous youth.

Bob R. said...

Well the Reverend Gordon King and Gavin King, the Member, seem to have a lot in common being very close, best mates with Mackenzie who wants Petford re-opened. I guess it is also possible that our new State Member is related to the Reverend. Has anyone bothered to do some researching?

Destiny Prophet said...

The day I arrived in Cairns in November 1987 the headline on the front page of the Cairns Post was concerning an alleged MASSIVE CAIRNS HOMOSEXUAL PEDOPHILE RING and the alleger was (drumroll please....) Reverend Gordon King!!!

I was already cynical enough to be automatically suspicious of anyone who chooses to direct their charitable endeavours towards vulnerable, at risk youth. It almost seems inevitable that those feted now for their good works will eventually be reviled when their real motivation is exposed. I hope there are exceptions.

Years after King was jailed I met one of the kids he'd been convicted over. He was drug fucked and looked years older than he was and still cried about fleeing to Cairns as a 14 year old to escape sexual abuse at home only to be scared to have a shower at the refuge, knowing King would likely appear to rape him. The guy desperately wanted a normal family life with a wife and kids but couldn't keep a home, job or relationship and was suffering the consequences of shared needle use. I imagine he's long dead.
A community which does not take care of at risk youth properly can pay a terrible price. Michiko Okuyama is dead forever. The kid who killed her got, I think, 7 years. The truck driver who'd molested him, got 2.

Anonymous said...

I acknowledge there are clouds of smoke over Petford so, presumably, there must be a fire of sorts. But what? I don't think being 76 years old would ever get you immunity from prosecution for some of the crimes alleged here. And exactly how many young people went through the place? Surely one would have come forward over the years. It just doesn't add up!

But having said all that, something must be done to address the awful juvenile crime rate in Cairns. Young children, high on glue, hatred, jealousy and welfare have taken over our streets and commit crimes with impunity and without regard of the consequences to themselves, their victims, the greater community or the reputation of our city (which is being trashed in the process).

At least this government seems to be prepared to do more than simply acknowledge that the problem exists and hope it will eventually go away.

If a properly run youth camp can instill a measure of hope and pride into these children then it must be tried.

Anon No. 4 said...

Guppy was running the LNP campaign for King while both were at the Cairns Post. Then he left to join King, and now he's back at the Cairns Post still running LNP campaigns. What a grub, the epitome of the "ethics" of Murdoch "journalists".

ruby red dress said...

As jim-bob snr. wrote above, Cairns is going round in circles. It is easy to see why. It has been estimated that only around 20% of the population here are now long time "locals" who would have the historical social and political knowledge of the region. (However, there are some who say the percentage of long time locals is even much less.) Therefore the past doesn't exist for the majority of the population. What scandals occurred, what reputations people have, why decisions were made in the past, what paths we took and why we abandoned them -the majority of the population don't know any of this. Hence Mackenzie's influence over an unwitting and uninformed audience. How many of his listeners would recall the Petford scandals or the Reverend King scandal? How many of his listeners would recall why we abandoned large scale dreding of the inlet? How many would recall that it was Mackenzie who led the fight against the offer of a brand new hospital? And so it goes on and on. Adding to the role of Mackenzie comes new arrivals such as Gavin King who very quickly demonstrated he knew best for Cairns without intelligently looking at our past. Then we have the likes of Byrne, who never got over being defeated by a woman. Byrne whose Capital Globe tanked and who is unquestionably behind the current Unity Council Team for self-serving reasons which we will undoubtedly find out. These are just some of the reasons I think why we are being dragged round and round in circles while cities like Townsville where the population is much more stable, are out in the freeway and powering on ahead.

Terry Vance said...

My bloody oath Liz, horses can be "temperamental beasts". Imagine a slightly built, under nourished young teen trying to control a bastard that just doesn't want a bridle on it? Kick! Those bastards pack such a whallop behind those kicks you can still feel them decades later.

T. Asquith said...

Ruby red dress; oh so well articulated and so true! This is the type of intelligent (and influencing) commentary we need on this blog.

Anonymous said...

ruby red dress said..13/5/12 08:42 I am with you ruby red dress. I was born here, however I lived away for several years. People forgot the work Keith Goodwin did to win public support to keep the Esplanade as it was. Not wrecked by some false, expensive trashy 'lagoon'. I worked in tourism not so long back, and Cairns is marketed as a 'sandy beach'. This is completely false. The likes of Davis, (who almost wept on television being interviewed on Channel 10 at the time by a man with a stupid orange wig on, who lost to Mr. Goodwin)then Clelland's untimely death, and the we copped Byrne. People kept putting the prick in, then old Pyne ousted him, and Byrne pissed off to Russia. They he comes back, and again we got him, by the very people who call themselves 'locals'. Byrne is no more a local to Cairns, as is MacKenzie. They are out for their own benefit. How 4CA ever employed MacKenzie amazed me. The manager at the time, Noel Roberts, was considered as one of the most incompetent radio station managers ever, as I worked for him, and knew MacKenzie. When Willisee come along, up went MacKenzies's salary, and so did Roberts'. They are both amateurs. Then Willisee cashed in his chips, made a fucking fortune out of the place, and fucked off back to his reclusive, wowser life in Sydney. Before MacKenzie, Bob Burgess, later a councillor, was very popular with listeners on 4CA. He didn't carry on with the shit MacKenzie does. However, back to Willisee. He pissed of, and left his arse lickers in the joint, then Roberts got the arse from Transmedia. What was left of Cairns as to commercial radio? A fucking dick head, who eggs on all the shit stirring ignorant trash who listen to his infantile, stupid program. The ABC, isn't really much better these days either. As for the Cairns Post, it used to be a very good newspaper I recall. But again, it is a rag like the other shit newspapers of the Murdoch stable. People like MacKenzie, drag Cairns into the dirt with their ignorant summary views of what is best for the people here. Byrne knew he had to go, but could never be a man and acknowledge defeat by Val. He is vindictive and nasty, but more to be pitied than blamed... He is simply a jerk who should never have been given a job at 4CA.

Liz said...

This episode of praising up Petford is clear evidence that Mackenzie's malevolence extends to children. No, I am not accusing him of being a paedophile. As I have mentioned before, there are many forms of child abuse, not just sexual abuse. I accuse him of being so racist that he ignores a Government report into child abuse and deliberately keeps it from his listeners. The man is a monster whose hatred of aboriginal people extends to their children.

ruby red dress said...

Anonymous above, these days Mike Willesee claims to have "found God" and is making an even bigger fortune by pandering to the religious right in the USA with religious films. Goes to show what sort of man he is.

Jethro Bogan said...

Thanks Anon No 4 regarding the info about Guppy. It was all I could do not to barf at the fawning obsequiousness with which he flattered old Masthead to the roof tops. Your comments explain it all, so I guess from now on we can read where old Masthead walks on water and feeds the masses from a basket of bread and fish. I wonder if the fuckwit Guppy has any idea of what is really going on behind the scenes and what he is contributing to?

Bob R. said...

Just for the record, I wonder how much Byrne and others lost when they sunk their money into Capital Globe? I dare say they will all now be seeking to recoup their losses.

Anonymous said...

Mackenzie was well known in the 90s for his trips to the Philippines and Thailand with Phil Land and Les Cygan.

Anonymous said...

ruby red dress said...13/5/12 15:10. The comment about Willesee doesn't suprise me at all. I was at a 'cocktail' event with him and others, and the spiv with the orange toupe was there also. They were all up Willows arse like Doctor Proctor. Willesee was spruking "I am going to make this the best radio network in the country. All of your jobs are safe ad naus... I asked Willesee: "Are you going to keep 4CA, 4TO and 4MK, or sell once you have gone FM"? Willesee ignored me. I then asked him again, with the intro... "I am asking you a direct question..." You could have heard a fucking pin drop. Willesee and all the arse jummpers glared at me with hatred. How dare I challenge Willesee. It was made that hard for me, I left the fucking joint. Next, Willesee finds God, and fucks off to his wowser retreat in the Hunter Valley, by way of his new $3 million chopper. Then along came DMG I think it was. However before Transmedia, there was Wesgo Communications. They were professional broadcasters, as were their predecessors in the string of ownership of 4CA - Amalagmated Wireless Australasia, who ran the 1008 4CA very well. (They used to market it as 1010 4CA). Bob Burgess was a great broadcaster, until a plastic spinner, Noel Roberts was made station manager. Then out goes Burgess, and in comes the lout who is still there today. From his unfortunate start at 4CA, he has always feted the 'knobs' of the town. Ron Davis, who was at the time also involved with the Port Authority, as was Manning, as Secretary. The list goes on and on. MacKenzie pandered to anyone who could turn a bullshit story of 'how they are leading the charge in making Cairns the city it is'. The curious thing was, they all went bankrupt, viz; Hedley, O'Brien and I could go on and on. I recall the Cairns Post, and MacKenzie... Tom Hedley.. Cairns' first billionaire! MacKenzie is a complete, pandering apology for a broadcaster. Manning I was reliably told was a prick to work for. He had trouble making up his mind. I did not want to write this response, however it makes my fucking blood boil, that MacKenzie, Byrne and Manning still have the contempt to keep foistering this shit upon us. I feel sorry for the citizens of Cairns. Now look who is representing them in State Parliament. A wanker, who is gifted I would say with a good pen. That is about all he has to offer. Also, a few of his cronies who tried to get into the recent council. One is particular should stick to jamming people with used car deals.

Dean said...

What always happens, to save costs, is that the government leaves running camps like this to the churches (sometimes other community groups, but mostly the christians), who in turn put out the word to their fathers who wants to run the show. Inevitably, the people who put their hands up are 1) not liked in their current position, 2) willing to work in isolation with children. What kind of person fits the bill of those two criteria? If the govt is serious about running such camps, they should do it themselves with tremendous oversight, as these are the most vulnerable of the vulnerable. The days of blindly putting trust in the church are long past.

Spangled Lady said...

Arona anyone?? See Cairns Blog archives.

Tony Hillier said...

Ruby Red Dress and the latest Anonymous must be congratulated for providing Hillbilly Watchers with some accurate historical perspective. More's the pity their treatises didn't see the light of day during the election campaigns, either here or as letters in our daily organ (mind you, having said that three of my missives to the Compost failed to get past the gatekeeper). Comparative newcomers to Cairns (i.e. 60% of the local population) might have cast a more informed vote had they access to quality background information.

Anonymous, can't you at least come up with a nom-de-plume if you're scared of using your own name.

Anonymous said...

Tony Hillier said...14/5/12 08:56 Mr. Hillier, if you are referring to my rant about the history of 4CA and why I don't give my name, I have no need to... If you read my writing closely, it would almost blind you who I am! Hey Tony, you are a great commentator, and I do love your work. I don't know you personally, but keep up the great work. :)

ruby red dress said...

Tony Hillier, for the record many of my letters to The Cairns Post don't get past the gatekeeper. However it was worse when King was Editor. Anonymous who told us so much about Radio 4CA, I think I know who you are, and you know me too!

Jed Clambutt said...

Dean, I agree with you. It might be popular in some quarters to run down the public service, but when it comes to running institutions for the care of children, the disabled or the elderly, they are best off being run by a Government Department. Many of the local nursing homes for the aged are run by Church based organisations and frankly the stories you hear from the staff there make one all the more determined never to reach decrepit old age.

Dick Whittington said...

You're dead right there about nursing homes Jed Clambutt. Blue Care (Glenmead Village) is claimed to be 'not-for-profit' age care home, the biggest load of old rubbish I've ever heard. It makes a huge profit - for the tax-free Uniting Church that is. And the evidence for that is the minimal amount spent on the residents. I've worked there, and the place has a terrible reputation for poor care and intimidation of residents.

Jim Cavill said...

Dick Whittington and Jed Clambutt do you know what "not for profit" means? It not losing money or the profit bit.
The "profit" is not distributed to those making the those making the profit,many "not for Profit" organisation make many thousands if not millions of $$$$

Dean said...

Religions which are in essence supposed to be 'not for profit' organisations. However, they have many profit making areas, such as nursing homes which indeed make a profit.

The difference is that their profits go back to the church who can then build a new chapel. Every now and then they even fund things that are worthy, like feeding the poor, but they don't do it without trying to spread the word of god. There's always something in it for them.

Jethro Bogan said...

There isn't any Christian charity in anything the Uniting Church does. It's all profit driven and corporate now. Growing old and feeble is now too expensive for a lot of people. Don't think you are going to spend all your superannuation having a great time. You're gonna need it for when you can't feed yourself or wipe your arse.

Dean said...

Which is why the church is so much against euthanasia. They know how many paying customers they're going to lose. It's not to save souls, it's for the bottom line.

They'd rather keep paying customers alive in pain than lose customers to death and peace.

Dick Whittington said...

Glenmead Village/Uniting Care management like their residents to be compliantly feeble and preferably demented. And any with an ounce of spirit, who stand up to the poor quality of care, shortage of staff, lack of activities, unimaginative meals, etc. are soon labelled as troublemakers and threatened with eviction. No tenancy laws to prevent that happening in this sector.
The only time they concern themselves with resident 'care' is when government accreditation is taking place; then the greatest cover up (and spend up) ever. I've seen it time after time.

jim-bob bogan snr. said...

That was a great con of the Governments to bring in superannuation. If we live into our dotage we're gunna need all of our super. for our aged care. I reckon it's up to us to bring on euthanasia so we can bloody spend our super enjoying ourselves in our last years on earth, rather than have some greedy grubby bloody Church group grab it for substandard care like watery soup, and kerosene baths.

Anonymous said...

Ahhh Petford!!!!! The concept is/was first rate however very narrow in scope. Funny how we are labelling all black fellas as the juvi crims, maybe this is what we see?? fact is theer are as many whities if not more in the youth crime gangs. The old fart is now really old and I would think maybe someone who has some input only (no more "in" put for him at his age if the assertions are right!!! Shame Petford is a tarnished property as I am sure someone could create something there worth supporting. The fact is to solve the youth crime issues is very complex and getting these shitheads away from Cairns cant be all bad!

Robert J Lee said...

Well here we go all the anonymous postings are really not worth the time it took to pen them. The Petford facility now is run down and not being used. Geoff Guest is 85 years old, but his continual research into juvenile and adult delinquency is unparallelled in this field. This man stills runs a naturopathic clinic three time a week for no remuneration. He lives on an old age pension. Perhaps his detractors might want to ask the 4000 people of all ages who this man has helped over the last 30 years. His acknowledged success rate is 80 per cent. Show me any medical facility that can go over 20 per cent non-recidivism for drug and alcohol abuse! Trout and King know, particularly Trout of the LNP who has known Guest for 30
years and seen first hand the success rate for keeping disturbed people of all ages off the street and out of trouble. This writer knows quite a few of the Petford proteges from more than 10 years ago and detractors should ask them why they always return to Petford each year to pay tribute to an outstanding human being who put them back on track.

Brora Farm EAL said...

I would love to see proof of these accusations against Geoff. I met him recently and am close to people who go along way back with Geoff. He is an extremely impressive person with a mission and works tirelessly for the betterment of at risk people in FNQ.
I met and spent time with an amazing young family of whom the (very together and proud) father could not have admired Geoff more for the mentoring and sense of family he recieved from Geoff as a young boy years ago.
I have seen Geoff in action regarding horsemanship. He was 84 at the time and with his gentle, but firm leadership had the stallion quiet and ready for backing within 1/2 a day.
Not really sure about the cynicism on this thread regarding centres working for young at risk people?? Bit sad really.

Anonymous said...

PETFORD TORTURE & MOLESTATION FARM!
There's no doubt in my mind why the facility closed. I was sent there as a 12 year old "white boy", then returned as a worker a few years later, on 2 seperate occasions Infact. What went on at that farm can barely be described in words. The things I saw go on, many will haunt me forever.
After funding was cut, he was promoting boys to apply for centerlink and telling them exactly what to say to centerlink ie, say you have a dope addiction, 'even if you didn't'. He would then charge the boys $150pw and they were lucky if they saw more than baked beans and lentils as their meal 3 times a day. He was using these boys funds for his own benefits and I beleive he still is to this day wherever possible.
DISGUSTING!!!