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18 July 2012

20 COPPERS KICKING ARSE AND TAKING NAMES - WELL, REALLY JUST TAKING NAMES

A numbnuts staff member (raise your hand, you know who you are) working for the Member for MacKenzie was overheard talking to a Lake Street merchant this morning.  The merchant noted the larger police presence, but claimed all they were doing was talking to people and taking notes.

The expectation of many was a phalanx of storm troopers in riot gear, swinging truncheons and clearing the streets.  The Martin Tenni Solution.

Mr. Numbnuts then said "the Minister hasn't figured out what to do with these people yet.  The watchhouse can't hold them all, and there is no space in the alcohol diversion programs.  So we're trying to find out where they're all from, and they'll probably just be sent back".

The Kevin Byrne Solution.  Take a bow, Kevvie!

This is also why the FIFO coppers are starting in the CBD.  At least with the drunks, they have a solution.  With the 12 year old car thieves and kid gangs in the suburbs, they don't have a clue what to do, since they can't be held and get no punishment from the courts.

Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King again spoke today of their "Whole of Government" solution to the Cairns crime problem.  But it's only looking like a "HOLE of Government" solution = none.

Sad to see all this police talent being used as armed CBD club bouncers.  When does the crime fighting start?


44 comments:

Tony Hillier said...

HBW once again does the job our daily organ ought to be doing, by revealing (courtesy of some undercover work) the real reason for the posse of cops from BrisVegas.

Merv from Mooroobool said...

Can we send King back to NSW please?

Mr Grumpy said...

There is no winning with you HB
You are just a sad bitter miserable negative tool and no different to McKenzie who is at the opposite end of your views. So you hate Gavin King-are you going to keep crying for the next 4 years. You are no better than the dickheads that ring up on his show.
Neither of you present a balanced view, serious debate nor any tolerence on any debated topic.This is why most comments on this site are now just one or two people under the anonymous tag spewing their same garbage on every topic.McKenzie is full of LNP types and you are clearly in the hate everyone ALP camp.
We have to all improve to move Cairns on.

Ivor said...

The Cairns Post should be doing these exposes what HBW are doing,admittedly I've stopped buying the LNP propaganda rag and only read it in the Library,they've even shortened the Letters section so you can't read the complaints about the LNP.Good work HBW.

Tony Hillier said...

Unfortunately, Mr Grumpy, the indicators strongly suggest Cairns is unlikely to "move on", as you put it, under the guidance of the current local state government and federal representatives and council (and, by the way, I am no ALP apologist, even though I believe Cairns did reasonably well during their tenure).

Marge Simpson Cochrane said...

I assume the "big mouth" was one Steve Grasso, my former waterboy.

I love when they do good!

Anonymous said...

Maintain the rage. We all want extra police but when extra police is all you get with everything else cut it is pure populist policy.

Anonymous said...

I've just heard that Steve Grasso has resigned from Gavin King's office and is going to challenge Warren Entsch as the LiberaL Candidate for Leichhardt.

One of the 1 or 2 anonymous commenters said...

So how can I find your blog Mr Grumpy?

Anonymous said...

Gavin will not release the dredge report according to Pitt. Probably says it will kill all the dugongs Col who cares saved.

Anonymous said...

I am not soo keen on Enscht but is a real professional compared to Grasso. Grasso has no understanding of policy, just parrots spin and indulges in far too much personal abuse, never forget the malicous nasty comments about other council candidates on his Facbook page before he was told to clean them up, by Margaret probably. He would not last the first in depth question.

Anonymous said...

Anon above- I heard Grasso got the asso for doing political work whilst being paid by the Parliament of Queensland. Electorate Officers are employed to help in electorate offices and there are strict guidelines as to what they are entitled to do in work hours.

jim-bob jnr. said...

"Move on" Mr Grumpy! You reckon? Cairns is being dragged round and round in fucken circles. We are not moving on. We're going no-fucken-where. We've been dragged all the way back to fucken 1994 on the need for a new regional theatre. We've been dragged back to fucken 1982 on dredging the inlet. We've been fucken going round and round in circles on reviving the CBD ever since 1995. Who are the people pushing Cairns round and round in circles? King and Mackenzie have played the biggest roles.

Dean said...

Increased policing is a typical conservative reaction to treating the symptom rather than the cause. The ALP is guilty of the same thing, just on a less-regular basis.

Of course there's criticism of the government's actions. You can't exactly criticise the actions of the 7 opposition members. You can only dissect policy, which is where Abbott has been so cunning in never putting forward a policy therefore never having anything to be criticised.

The answer to juvenile crime is better education and more opportunities and activities for youths as well as better parenting (and parenting training). It's a 10+ year process from start to result, so politically impossible. Politically speaking, there is almost nothing anybody can do about juvenile crime while politics is so partisan. The only solution would be minority governments for long periods where parties didn't have to be so partisan to win votes. WIth 5+ parties well represented, parties could have much more narrow focuses.

As it stands, we have parties which feel like they have to oppose absolutely everything the other side does just for the sake of opposition. Again, both major parties are guilty and democracy and policy is the victim.

JETHRO said...

I wouldn't rate Grasso's chances in winning LNP pre-selection for Leichhardt very high. The LNP are demonstrating a very strong predilection for selecting old white boys from the local "boys club" to do "one termers". That policy saves these gutless wonders from facing the electors and being accountable at the ballot box. Yeah, being a "oncer" they can do what they want. Piss off on overseas jaunts, avoid answering peoples complaints, involve themselves with whatever issue THEY want, swan around at all the freebee functions where there is publicity, avoid the non-publicised community gatherings. The local LNP see entry into politics as nothing more than an entry into a well paid golden handshake for a select few. Grasso has no chance.

ruby said...

Mr Grumpy, I do not approve of the way jim-bob jnr. above makes his point. However he is correct in that Cairns has been driven round and round in circles. Those of us who are locals can confirm the city has been driven back through the decades to 1982 and 1994 on issues of vital importance to Cairns and district. We are seeing regressive politics at work in this city. Bad politics - which has resulted in loss of major Government funding, seen the emergence of media "hatefests", polarised the city, seen the demonisation of the first ever female Mayor in Cairns, while certain key issues have steadily gone full circle.
Mr Grumpy, we have a right to express our opinions that we are both worried and dismayed at what is happening.

Seth in Port said...

Anonymous 09.50 "Grasso got the asso for doing political work -".
I reckon this is bullshit and a cover for what really happened. Don't try and crap on that electorate staff shouldn't be involved in politics. Of course they are and have been since the year dot. King is only putting up a smokescreen to try and make out how ETHICAL he is or some such cunning bullshit. The truth is more likely that Grasso upset that Orc in State Office, piggy Sullivan, or some such dark Lord of the LNP hierarchy.

Mr Grumpy said...

Roby
Constant slander,abuse,insults,foul language and allegations of just about everything and everyone in office is a waste of time by the usual suspects on this blog.It's just absolute garbage.It's the same 2 or 3 people commenting every time under different names.
It does Cairns no good at all. If you think a Council or new Government can turn an economy in 2-3 months after taking office then people are just plain ignorant.I fully supported the CEP and it, along with other major projects have been lost because of radical stupid political views from both sides of the fence.I remember the opposition to the hospital relocating- it was infuriating. Martin Tenni and the other members at the time inc ALP screamed out against the building of the airport- go figure.
Cairns has failed to present a united voice over the past 5 yrs and it now shows.

Anonymous said...

What about the dredging the inlet report which had mackenzie's old timers wetting their incontinence pads up into a lather?Pearl and king got into a right royal melt down over that.Mackenzie was using words like "a crisis",now it's,what report.

Anonymous said...

Mr Grumpy. LNP have cost Cairns 300million dollars and King LIED about us headed for 100bn in debt. Why give them a chance when they have done that much damage already.

ruby said...

Mr Grumpy, the name is "ruby" not "roby". If you don't like this blog or the people who post comments here, then just don't log onto "Hillbilly Watch". It is that simple. Easy as pie.

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 14.43, King has demonstrated he doesn't believe in transparency in Government. He also has breached his Oath of Office in that he is SUPPOSED to serve his electorate "without fear or favour". I am hearing that people who have requested copies of that environmental report into dredging have not received a reply from his office.

Mr Grumpy said...

Well we have them for the next 3 yrs like it or not.Realistically the first budget in Sept will give us a better view of where any money for Cairns ( if any) is going to go.

Bob R. said...

Newman said in The Cairns Post during the State election campaign that "dredging Trinity Inlet so that the big cruise liners can come in, was the most important issue facing Cairns". WELL?????? Where is that report?

Liz said...

Mr Grumpy, I have only just read your comments and may I say they sent shivers up my spine. Do you understand what a democracy is? Do you understand the right of people to freely debate and comment on the politics and governance of the day? Your sententious lecture indicates clearly that you don't. The people of Cairns and its surrounds no longer have democratic rights to comment in The Cairns Post. I know this, because even my letters to the Editor have been rejected, ditto my comments online. Others who make comments in here have also confirmed the same thing is happening to them. We know that John Mackenzie will not allow any opposing views on his program. We know that Mackenzie has an open door to Gavin King, Warren Entsch and Bob Manning, but that he will not allow Labor people on his program. To put it straight, our local media machine have corrupted the processes of democracy in this region. This blog provides us with an avenue in which to express ourselves, opine, debate, argue, share information or just to let off steam. HBW serves a valuable function in a city where the media have corrupted freedom of expression. Lastly, Mr Grumpy, I know of three of the people who post here and another two by sight only. Now that makes at least six of us, that I know of. Has it occurred to you that perhaps like-minded people have gravitated to this blog?

Anonymous said...

Cairns Post edits letters, Gavin King and Campbell Newman ban people from their Facebook account, Ross Parisi blogs are populist nonsense for the "useful idiots" that send people with IQ over 75 feral. Courier Mail is a bit better but far away, Brisbane Times good but we need far more media diversity. We are oppressed in Queensland.

Anonymous said...

Courier mail has an article on how our future is bright, we have recovered from the natural disasters and will power along now. So all those sackings for nothing. Then they have a article on jobs for kids with ministerial children get temp contracts with the public service. How low can this mob go.

Tony Hillier said...

Liz's summary is, sadly, spot on. For the thinkers and progressives in this bogan-saturated city, HBW is pretty well the only public forum for expressing views.

Incidentally, from what I've heard, the cops were brought in from Brisbane specifically to deal with escalating crime, largely perpetrated by indigenous youths.

Mrs Grumpy said...

Well well that's where ol' Grumpy got to, sposed to be cutting the lawns! Don't mind him petals, he's been cranky since flouride got into the water. I have a very different take on things to ol' grumpy and can't get enough of HBW. Cairns was doing fine until ol' boy Manning and his suck-ups came to power, the new Entertainment Precinct would have been well on the way and brought with it business confidence, jobs and a sense of pride in our City. What have the can't do Newman dweebs done, taken away $57 million; thrown some more police into the CBD to what??? Where will the people go who will be taken from the CBD, there is now no rehab for the alcoholics and drug addicts (Gav and his mate cueball along with stench saw to that). Gav's bum boy Grasso still hasn't answered why he left (or was he shafted) the navy.

JETHRO said...

So good ole Swanny is leaving Cairns Regional Council with the $40 million Federal Government funding for the axed Entertainment Precinct? I read it in todays Cairns Post. What's the betting that Manning has plans for this? I reckon he will hand it all over to a developer mate for a THEATRE HOTEL and spruke on and on about how great a "public/private" partnership is. Yeah. What a classic swindle. But we all suspect it is coming. Instead of a public asset owned by the people of Cairns, some shareholders will get a private asset. What a cosy deal to fleece the public. Lets see, the developer puts the theatre on the bottom floor and builds rooms on the other floors. The ratepayer will pay for the maintenance of the theatre floor, the staff, the advertising etc. The hotel owner will then advertise as the "theatre hotel" whenever a big show is on, and will have full hotel rooms. The theatre hotel owner will also get first pick of the tickets to the shows and whatever is left over goes to the ratepaying dolts who pay to maintain the theatre. The owners of the theatre hotel will also own the bars and restaurants, so they will also fleece off the local population. Oh, and what great bargaining power the owners of the Theatre Hotel will have to use standover tactics with the Council. "If you don't pay for the refurbishing cost of our foyer and bar, then we cannot allow Cairns High School or the other schools to stage their graduation ceremonies here!" or whatever.

Anonymous said...

Good point Mrs Grumpy. Where are all the juveniles and felons going to be put that these extra police are going to round up? Someone posted a comment before saying he saw cattle trains full of skeletons lined up in front of police stations and court houses waiting to be processed through the justice system. How are the Magistrates and Justices going to respond to Newman's orders for tougher sentences but to cut back on spending on jails and corrective services? Something is going to snap and snap it will, big time.

Seth said...

Jethro, let's hope it doesn't come down to that. You are right, if that is what happens, it will be the greatest swindle ever perpetuated on the people of Far North Queensland. Taxpayers monies given back to the people of Far North Queensland, in all good faith by Governments, to build a publicly owned community asset being handed to private enterprise for a PRIVATE non-community asset. In any public/private enterprise deal, the public get dudded. Just how accessible to the public would such a theatre be anyway? You can imagine a bullyboy hotel manager putting pressure on the theatre staff to give all the best seats to the hotel guests first and not to the ordinary public. Such a theatre would not be a large one either, more like the same size as the current theatre. Once again too small for the current population. Lastly that point you raised about stand-over tactics. You bet, a bullyboy manager can do just that. He can quickly have the Council over the proverbial barrel. Do a bit of dodgy building on the ground floor, blame the Council for it, get a shonky lawyer in and then take the Council to court to get the rest of the money to build the hotel. That's just one scenario where it can all go bellyup.

Mz Elly-May said...

Seth and Jethro, what a pair of doomsday prophets you two are. It is more likely that Swan will demand the money be sent back to Canberra. As I understand it, those funds had strings attached and the Council can no longer meet those obligations. I ask you, just who in their right mind anyway would build a community theatre next to a hotel or actually inside a hotel? What about the safety of the thousands of children who patronise a community theatre? This year saw 5000 children attending the Eisteddfod. How safe would it be for so many children to perform inside a hotel where there are hundreds of rooms on different floors and plenty of opportunities for some mongrel to spirit a child away?
The thought just makes me sick to the core. A hotel just isn't appropriate at all for a community venue which is patronised by large numbers of children. Wake up to yourselves.

ruby said...

Its all over for the Entertainment Precinct. Manning and his Unity Team scuttled the whole thing once and for all. Swan will have to take the Federal funding back. Who knows how long the current Civic Theatre will last? Maybe one more decade, hosting fewer and fewer shows and performances and being used less and less. As Manning said, "My wife and I fly to Sydney or Melbourne to see a show." I can't think of any Mayor who has ever so contemptuously and arrogantly dismissed the needs of the people and children of FNQ, but there it is. The two fingered salute from Manning. It's all over and useless speculating about a new performing arts theatre. There won't be one for many decades to come.

D.J.HUNT said...

Let's not forget the other much trumpetted extra 10 police. Turns out 4 of those are CIB/CPIU spots, not uniforms on the streets of Cairns, that have to be advertised. These vacancies have been advertised repeatedly and they can't fill them. This is just re-advertising jobs they can't fill, not "extra" or "new" police for Cairns. If no one outside Far Northern Police Region puts in for those spots, then we get zero extra coppers.

jim-bob snr. said...

Thanks for the explanation there D.J. Hunt. It all gets back to the principle "governments must be seen to be doing something" even if they are not.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for your insight there D.J. Hunt. Without knowing all this, it looks good for the Government and people would be deceived. I notice King is trumpeting away about the new fights to China initially attempting to take the credit for them himself or the Newman Government but I see where people have been quick to point out that previous Cairns mayors can take the credit for it.

Dean said...

Swan's just saying its there to further humiliate the lnp pollies who have 40mil that they can't even spend. The strings attached mean somebody has to match the money. So council will have to find their own 40 million, which those bozos wouldn't have a clue what to do with.

Anonymous said...

We're off the topic of police, but Im buggared if I know why Swanny has left the $40 million Federal grant monies for the dead Entertainment Precinct "on the table". What does he think he's bloody doing? $40 million won't build the Entertainment Precinct or a new community theatre.

Anonymous said...

Thanks DJ. Dont suppose you know anything about the school holiday program, it is being touted as the best thing since bread was first sliced. If this was such a great program why isnt it still running? Why are the courts not insisting that this magic wand program take the juvinile crims thay see daily? All smells a bit to me.

D.J.HUNT said...

Actually I do know about the "school holiday program" Anonymous. There was a letter in the compost on Saturday about it as well. The "school holiday program" supposedely introduced by Gavin and the LNP crime action plan was actually just part of an ongoing program run by a local group called Team Wild. A local charity that works with troubled youth achieving long term positive results with youths often too hard to handle by the other departments and put in the too hard basket who otherwise end up entering our revolving door justice system. In terms of outcomes that could be achieved Anon it would be the best thing since sliced bread to achieve real reforms in our city if it was supported and is a FARRRR better option than Petford or populist, BS "bootcamps".
The "program" is still running but it is not and never was funded by the Member for Cairns' LNP govt.They don't mind taking the credit for the positive results and making it look like they're doing something about crime, but instead of funding something they know works and will benefit Cairns, they won't fund it and some BS program in Hervey Bay/Gold Coast with military style bootcamps will be. It's just wrong.
As you say they touted it as a raging success so why don't they fund it to be one of these trial bootcamps?
The team has had to purchase a kit car and are teaching these same youth self pride,work ethics and skills to put it together which they are then intending to auction off in order to fund their own programs and cover the costs they incurred as part of the "school holiday program"

Mick said...

Anonymous 22/7/12 18:17 What 'Swanny' is doing is honouring the Fed's commitment to add to the State funding for the CEP which was signed and sealed before Newman wrecked it with scaremongering about Queensland being broke /let's destroy families by making the breadwinner redundant etc, so he could slough off funding back to the centre of his universe - Brisbane. Now we realise we've been bullshitted yet again with revelations of the release of the 'booklet' telling overseas investors how well off Queensland really is.

Dean said...

He's leaving it on the table because Manning and King will use it to attack the ALP for killing the project off completely. Manning is stringing people along with no intention of doing anything about the civic theatre. The budget is to be handed down today. It will include nothing of any significance for the future of Cairns and further ensure the death of industry in Cairns. Professional people are starting to leave in droves every month. While personally, people aren't in trouble (there's more work elsewhere in Oz and still work in Cairns if you want it). The town itself, apart from tourism, is on its knees at risk of becoming even further dated.

jim-bob snr. said...

Dean, I agree with you. The $40 million Swan is leaving on the table will be used against the ALP in another sly twist sooner or later.