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4CA - Queensland's Home for Fake News Led by John "Cueball" Mackenzie

30 August 2012

MACKENZIE HILLBILLIES DEMORALISED AND BITTER AS LNP PROMISES TO CAIRNS FALL ONE BY ONE

When Member for MacKenzie Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King walked into the 4CA offices, he was visibly stoop shouldered and subdued.  He, along with the dozen or so regular callers into the Cueball show, are starting to realise they've been dudded.  MacKenzie has sold them on a change of government that is clearly now showing their disinterest in doing anything positive for Cairns.

And as the usual mob got on the line, the dismay and seething anger from these people in the community is palpable.  So angry are some like Karin "Pearl Necklace" Pollard in Wangetti, she wouldn't even get on the line but instead had her question read out to King - she's found out that the likely site of the juvenile boot camp is 100 meters from the Wangetti shack she calls home.

Referring to apparently another Cairns Port dredging analysis that the LNP continues to hide from the public, we're told the $40M committed by Campbell Newman to this "top of the list", first year project is now perhaps only 1/3 of what will be needed to dredge the inlet.  The top figure suggested is $110M!    

Dredging of the Trinity Inlet for a handful of cruise ships is by far the stupidist proposal pushed by John MacKenzie and embraced by King, as well as Warren "Run for the Door" Entsch.  Because most of the listeners to this pathetic excuse for an information show have the intelligence of a bag of hammers, we now have a brain dead group of residents believing we've found the golden calf.  Let's put it in perspective:

The number of cruise liners who've ported in Yorkey's Knob instead of the city in the last five years is 22.  The cruise ships continue to get bigger and bigger - no amount of dredging will get them all.  Let's say we can increase the number of cruise ships in town by dredging - let's say we now can port 50 additional ships in five years.  

This means each additional ship, over a five year period, will cost the taxpayers over $2 MILLION, just to get some additional passengers that don't care to ride tender boats ashore.  (The tendering process is used in ports around the world, btw).  And if not continually maintained, after five years we need to dredge some more.  


This is why no one will release the dredging consultations to the public.  They don't stack up.  It's idiotic to spend this kind of money to sell a few more overpriced didgeridoos.  The only possible way to get the inlet dredged is if HMAS Cairns is expanded dramatically and needs to port larger ships.  Maybe US aircraft carriers.  Sadly, then we have to worry about Bryan Law and his rusty garden implements. . .   

The cost-benefit analysis of dredging even puts it below the other continual stupid ideas about train service from the suburbs to the city and the monorail idea promoted at the last election.

To put the nail in the coffin, Deputy Can-do Jeff Seeney said any approval would be "years away, if at all".  Blind Freddy knows what this means.  And yet King and his manipulator Cueball MacKenzie continue to pump hot air into an obviously dead-end proposal that got the hillbillies excited enough to vote for him.  They'll string the community along as long as they can, because they can then claim "we've committed millions to Cairns" and won't have the money for anything else. 

Elvis, Raj, Pearl, Peter, Bill, and the loudmouth taxi driver:  You're been manipulated and fucked over.  Let us know when you've figured it out.   


41 comments:

Anonymous said...

Geez who can forget when " a dredging we will go, a dredging we will go, we'll dredge and dredge and dredge and dredge and a dredging we will go." It was all the local LNP could talk of for months. Macenzie, King, Manning all fixated on it so all the cruise liners could dock in Cairns Port and make everyone rich beyond their wildest dreams. So after months of pressure, Desley Boyle, then the Member for Cairns, gets the State Government to carry out an investigation into dredging the Cairns Inlet. Well - everyone waits and waits and waits. The election comes and goes, King is elected. And still we wait, and wait. Manning wins the CRC Election and we wait. But while everyone around town is asking, "Where is this report into dredging the inlet?" the LNP are silent. FINALLY, we find out via an interview in The Cairns Post that King has been sitting on the report and won't release it to the public. So much for TRANSPARENCY

Anonymous said...

Gavin is out of his depth. He is going around town meeting us, promising to advocate for us. Then he is never heard of again. Won't return calls or emails.

Lake St will be a half arsed pit.

Bit harder that writing drivel in the Cairns POst hey Gavin ol son, isn't it?

Anonymous said...

Dirty Deeds n Dey Done Dirt Cheap.
(dredgings expensive but)

Jethro said...

Ooooh yeah! A dredgin we will go, a dredgin we will go. We'll dredge and dredge and dredge and dredge because the future of Cairns is in dredgin mate. Manning gets on Mackenzie and tells us over and over ad nauseum that the piece of land the Entertainment Precinct is to be built on, is the ONE piece of land CRITICAL, just CRITICAL for Ports expansion. The future of Cairns hangs in the balance on this one piece of land and "dredgin." BAH!! What a lot of bullshit, and think of the people who sucked it right up. I predict however this one will go round AGAIN on a second circuit in a couple of years time. It's a beauty to fool the unwary with.

jim-bob snr. said...

Youre not wrong there Jethro. I well recall when all everyone wanted to talk about was "dredgin". At the footie, at barbys, at work, wherever. Most of them were mexicans with no idea of what years of dredgin did to our esplanade and beaches coastline. No idea of past decisions and why they were made. No idea that Mourilyan was set up as the working port with massive improvements done on the Palmerston Highway to the Tablelands. All they heard was the continuous drum beat of "dredgin, dredgin, dredgin.." and they were all sucked right in. Yeah its a good trick for cunning politicians and their propaganda machine Mackenzie to keep on raising and take people for a ride. We will see it happen all over again no fucken worries.

Anonymous said...

What a cunning plan! You announce something (like dredging the Inlet) to the public pre-election, then when you win the election you go back to the people and say "Sorry folks the wicked Fed Govt won't let us do it" this before even submitting an application to the said Feds! Brilliant strategy -worthy of Joh -remember when he wanted to mine the reef?? maybe that is next on the cards.

Anonymous said...

Just a thought. The understanding seems to be that dredging is a one-off -I remember living near a small port and the dredge was out there every day doing its thing- can anyone confirm that this will be the case here? Huge costs for generations to come.

Anonymous said...

I have noticed some potential "politicians" have gone much quieter lately, perhaps the new order from the supreme commanders for LNP/Liberal as everytime they open their mouths they prove how stupid they are. This is one issue where one in particular proved beyond any shadow of a doubt he had rocks for brains. No sorry, that is being abusive to rocks! LNP = Stupidity on steroids.


Anonymous said...


Here is a an article from the past.

They saw no need for any study and pledged away ,no reports needed. COMMITTED to dredging.

www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/state-election-2012/pledge-to-dredge-for-tourists-20120221-1tkyt.html

Now trying to blame Federals. Insane.

Now we get 40 million on paper only.

Never made sense at the time and and now that is in black and white yet they still seem immune to logical thinking.

ruby said...

Two things really worry me about Queensland's LNP. The first was the unbridled triumphalism they displayed on winning Government with the largest majority ever seen in Austraian history. There was no understanding that in a democracy the Parliamentary Opposition is an essential part of democratic governance. In fact the very first thing Newman did was to banish the Parliamentary ALP Opposition all seven of them, from the offices of Parliament House. This only serves to substantiate the view that the LNP believe in one party governance. ("Totalitarianism" for the uneducated.) The second thing that bothers me is the increasingly held belief by LNP supporters that "Government is a business". How the hell did that sneak into the public mind? The talk is only about "getting a surplus" budget, not the role of Government to look after the health needs of its citizens, to educate them, provide transport, para medical services, roads etc. This is also a very frightening change in viewing the role of Government and indicates that the Newman Government is further to the "right" than any previous Conservative Government in Queensland. Neo-liberalism, American style, has snuck into Queensland.

Alison Alloway said...

I just posted a comment on The Cairns Post online site stating how sick and tired I was of all the stalling, procrastinations, dithering, slithering and delays in making decisions in this city and asking where is the REAL leadership? Wonder if The Cairns Post will publish it?

Anonymous said...

At a public meeting at Yorkeys Knob the other night, Michael Trout, Warren Enstch and Jessie Richardson all turned up to hear Council consultation on the local village precinct plans. presented by Council officers. Michael Trout spent the whole meeting on his mobile texting or exiting the Hall to talk and Warren Enstch asked one question and was gone. Jessie Richardson just sat in silence. It was noticed that they didn't really acknowledge each other's presence. To think that I voted for these 3 persons makes me feel guilty because I can't see that they have any real concern about local issues.

k.nevill said...

Yep, they posted it Allison, seems Kings bover boys missed it!

Nick vanVoorst said...

Bob Manning said on ABC this morning that the LNP's election pledge to start dredging within 6 months and that it could be done for $ 40 million, had no basis in reality. In other words:'it was just an election stunt". Bob wants a feasibility study and a cost-benefit analysis and predicted that it would take up to 5 years to get the project started, if it was approved.I have no issue with that.It makes sense and that's how most of these projects get done, but why weren't we told before the election? Currently the cost blow-out is $ 70 million. How much will it be in 5 years ? I am waiting for the same outburst of outrage and hysteria that scuttled the CEP. All I can hear is a deafening silence amidst attempts to trivialise the issue....

Alison said...

All the more reason Nick vanVoorst to build a pontoon at Yorkeys, put up a temporary tourist information booth, and arrange for some buses to be out there when the big ships arrive. We give huge funding to all sorts of tourist bodies in the city, surely they can purchase or hire a couple of buses when the big ships come in? Surely someone can be employed to co-ordinate the wishes of the cruise passengers before or as they arrive? Surely this isn't too much to do? We have to take a leaf out of the American approach of "go get 'em" to tourism.

k.nevill said...

Allison, you are as usual spot on. I have met ships at Yorkeys and have been on cruises and i cannot understand why the Cairns tourism industry is not doing more to greet the people coming off the boats.
I am dumbfounded that Yorkeys boat club are not taking advantage of the thousands that fall into their laps. After doing nothing initially they spent a couple of dollars on a bill board that basically says come in...if you like. Seems that a lot could be done to encourage people to get off the boats and then get them into Cairns. Sounds so simple, why is no one doing it?

shanghai said...

mate ttnq really have to do something because right now their pretty hopeless not many people within the industry are impressed with their efforts the only time i heard rob get fired up was when the govt was going to pull funding is there someone chinese in ttnq ?????

Anonymous said...

Well there you have it, when king leaves his term as member for doing Jack Shit, his page of what he has done for Cairns will be blank but he will have a cheque from the tax payers for a million bucks.Shanghi you are right TTNQ have done the same for Cairns Jack Shit.

T. Asquith said...

Dredging the inlet: it never was fiscally logical even at the lesser pre-election stated cost, but it was a fantastic con to win the votes of the cargo cultists who are only now coming to terms with this fraud perpetrated upon them by King and the LNP. Now consider the economics of dredging the inlet at the now revised post-election cost: absurd as it sounds, it would be cheaper to berth the cruise ships in the Brisbane River and fly (their) passengers to Cairns for their obligatory Kuranda train/Skyrail experience. Neither will happen, and now the only face-saving 'out' for King and the LNP is to try and shift the blame to the (ALP) Feds for blocking the project on environmental grounds. That con has already commenced, even though an applications hasn't even been lodged.


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Bazza said...

The only interest this lnp mob and council have is when they can start handing out our dollars to their business mates. Will be interesting to see the changes to the local gov act, no doubt corruption between management and these useless councillors will commence.
The dredging will cost no less thsn $200m in my view by the time they also do the swing area and try and take the bend out of the channel. These ships are flat bottom so they would have to dredge close to the wharf pylons and I doubt the pylons foundations would be deep enough to ensure the extra pressures by larger ships.
This lnp have not got a clue what they are doing.
king stated on radio this morning that the application to the feds will happen by the end of the year and it would probably be two years before approvals will happen, so in the meantime they can try to make Labor feds look bad.

Mick (Crockford Comment Collator) said...

A special mention must be given to Darren Ross of Bungalow for his total 'burning' of serial pest and obvious homophobe P. Crockford of Mt Sheridan in the comments section of yesterday's online Compost story regarding Newman's Cairns cabinet. I'm adding it to my P. Crockford wacko angry old man comments archives!

Anonymous said...

You are right there T. Asquith. Now they are attempting to blame it all on the Federal ALP and "the greenies". We stopped wholescale dredging of Trinity Inlet in the 1980s in the first place because of real environmental concerns about damaging the reef not forgetting the esplanade and surrounding beaches, but hey, don't worry about telling the truth.

Anonymous said...

I would suggest everyone get themselves to this visiting Cabinet Meeting, just to witness how in-experienced this LNP are, especially our own lot and their Can't Do Leader who until elected had never even sat in Q'land Parliament! I went to the Labor party visit a couple of years back and Premier Anna Bligh just blasted the then Opposition with Springborg as leader back then. She was a truly experienced politician. All our friends down south can't believe she was ousted and think Queenslanders must be dumb - they could see her value!

Anonymous said...

Gee you write some crap Hillbilly, you tell others to get there facts right first and you do the oppersite, and as far as the inlet not being dredged you are wrong again, it will be done. So try and bullshit to your loyal 20 or 30 followers who seem as dumb as you. Hahaha

Anonymous said...

I am a relative newcomer to FNQ and just to keep myself informed I tuned to 4CA and heard King this morning and I was astounded that he was never asked any hard questions re the dredging of the inlet -like "how are we going to be hundreds of millions better of with these benefits dredging will bring?" J macca ended his interview -the softest I have ever heard -(where is Leigh Sales when you need her?) by saying that he just wanted to run up to the top of Virginia House (I added hopefully -and jump) and yell to all about HOW GOOD IT IS!!!!!!
I had to go looking for my sickbag
Has this guy really been on the air here for 20 plus years?? Shame Cairns Shame..

Anonymous said...

Oh dear, the non entity hahaha anonymous is back. Now, how many LNP Luvvie trolls are out there with such poor spelling skills?

Dean said...

Unfortunately, cairns voters have for what they deserve. The majority are a bit slow and the elected representatives are the same. It's not about exposing the stupidity of the reps, it's about educating the masses.

Jethro said...

I'm under no allusion Anonymous 11.55 as to what people in other States think of us...electing a Premier with absolutely no parliamentary experience whatsoever.

k.nevill said...

fortunately the final decision to dredge or not will be made after due consideration of all the facts. The missing report will clear up some of those issues when it finally gets released. i believe its being sat on because its all bad news for the lnp and they are in enough shit already with their decisions. What wont happen is "dredg du imlet yu dumb 20 or 30 fooloweerrrs" Some people should not be allowed to procreate!

Anonymous said...

king and the rest of the lnp in the north have been gagged by newoman, so much for hit em for six king what a poor example of a local member full of balls behind the doors but shits his pants outside ,watch this space in the next few weeks king is on the nose

Mick of Mooroobool said...

Interesting! Around Cairns www.aroundcairns.com.au has posted a poll asking after 4 months as the new mayor how would you rate Manning's performance: http://aroundcairns.com.au/index.php?option=com_acepolls&view=poll&id=2%3Aafter-4-months-as-the-new-mayor-how-would-you-rate-bob-mannings-performance&Itemid=111

k.nevill said...

Small numbers but nearly 60% voted "he has made things worse"

Anonymous said...

Now 20 out of 31 responses say that he has made things worse.

Ask Manning Why said...

HAHA oh anonymous 31/8/12 12:17 you make me laugh. maybe when you learn how to spell correctly, then you might be able to read properly, and then perhaps read between the lines of what the compost is saying. the perfect example of the fools who believe Can't do, the lying king and grandad manning.

Jethro said...

Obviously the LNP will try and blame it all on to the Federal ALP the reasons why dredging can't happen. We stopped wholescale dredging back in the 1980s because of environmental reasons and the sheer bloody cost of it. But these LNP bastards like Gavin King won't bloody tell the truth. It's all a gigantic political con.

Anonymous said...

The Report which King has shoved up his arse says what we have all known for decades - dredging the inlet is not environmentally sound and will impact on the Reef and coastline, and secondly it will be way too expensive. But King etc wouldnt listen to us before. We're gunna be put through a hell of a lot more political trickery and skulduggery and it will probably be a number one Federal Election issue next election. Yeah they will "blame" it all on the Federal Government.

Anonymous said...

Off Cause he wouldn't listen to you 20 labor wankers that post on here and why should he, fucken loosers. haahaa

Miss Chief said...

There really does need to be more money spent on education. Even if for no other reason than to teach LNP groupies how to spell. King should do the right thing and quit. He is out of his depth and should do the honourable thing for the people of Cairns. We deserve better. You watch him hightail it out of Cairns after the nightmare ends. Release the report King. What are you hiding? Perhaps HBW should lodge a FOI request for the release of the environmental impact report on dredging.

Miss Chief said...

There really does need to be more money spent on education. Even if for no other reason than to teach LNP groupies how to spell. King should do the right thing and quit. He is out of his depth and should do the honourable thing for the people of Cairns. We deserve better. You watch him hightail it out of Cairns after the nightmare ends. Release the report King. What are you hiding? Perhaps HBW should lodge a FOI request for the release of the environmental impact report on dredging.

Anonymous said...

Good idea Miss Chief. I wonder just who did get a copy of that taxpayer funded report? Did anyone apart from Gavin King??

phabfish said...

Sorry Ruby, but I don't think Can't Do's government can really be described as "totalitarian". For a start, totalitarianism is usually characterised by having a charismatic leader. Even the most failthful Macca listener would surely struggle to call Can't Do charismatic!

Seriously though, what I don't understand about this whole 'big boats mooring at Yorkey's' conundrum is why we aren't spending a fraction of the dredging cash on providing a proper welcome at Yorkey's Knob. As many have already mentioned, Cairns isn't the only cruise venue required to bus people to the local tourist attractions, but must be one of the few that does so little to welcome those who come ashore.

I can't imagine it would cost $100m (+ ongoing costs) to provide a sufficient terminal; to hire the boats to ferry tourists to the terminal; have a team to meet and greet them (maybe with a free lei for everyone - they do it elsewhere and my company, FMN, would gladly get involved in supplying them - apologies for the cheap plug); a troup of indigenous performers; and a fleet of minibuses to take the visitors directly to Skyrail, Palm Cove, the city, Tjapukai etc... We don't get that many large cruise ships and basically, it is what we could/should be doing already. Let's spend some money on making visitors welcome, rather than dredging the inlet and then leaving the hordes to their own devices amongst the empty shops and closed pub (and not the CEP) that welcome cruise visitors to our CBD.