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08 August 2012

SHANGHAI TOUR WHOLESALERS FIND MAJOR SHORTCOMING IN CAIRNS INFRASTRUCTURE MAKES DESTINATION A TOUGH SELL TO CHINESE TRAVELERS

Local Channel Seven News (which serves up stories from Gladstone north and calls them "local"), has done a two-night "exposé" of how visitors to Cairns see the city.  But the gutless talking heads at Seven give us one shot of mould without identifying the four star hotel, and a vague charge that currency exchanges are a ripoff (aren't they everywhere??), and the hard-hitting exposé quickly descends into typical TV fluff.  

Shortly after the announcement of tourism "saviour" China Eastern's plan to begin limited service to Cairns in November, tour packagers from Shanghai, Beijing, as well as Australian-based Chinese wholesalers arrived in Cairns to put deals in place for the Cairns packages that they plan to sell with China Eastern.

And their first night at dinner, as they compared notes, they discovered the big problem that must be overcome in order to get Chinese tourists to embrace the destination.

And when this issue was first discussed with their TTNQ minders, they were told they were crazy.  But as the tour packages began to explain what the Chinese tourists expect when they travel, TTNQ management recognised they have a serious issue with which to contend.  And which could strangle the Chinese market before it begins.


CAIRNS DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS.

CAIRNS DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH HOTELS!

Sound absurd?  Think again.  We think of "hotels" in two ways - either a bar with a few rooms above it, or any accommodation house where you can get a room for the night.  

Hotels are NOT apartment unit blocks on holiday letting.  The Chinese tour bookers rejected out-of-hand Harbour Lights, Jack & Newell (TripAdvisor's #1 Pick), Aquarius, Waters Edge, Mantra.  THESE ARE NOT HOTELS.  The Chinese expect that a hotel is a "full service" establishment, with restaurants, daily laundry, and room service.  They in fact see holiday let apartments as "low class" accommodation - who would expect a tourist in a foreign country to cook their own food in a kitchen at a hotel??? 



One tour booker, told that Palm Cove was a world-class beach resort, scoffed and said "No good.  No hotels."  She then pulled out a brochure from Guam, showing a dozen high-rise, full service hotels directly on the beach.  Many will remember that the Grand Mercure in Palm Cove used to be a Novotel/Marriott hotel that was always chock-a-block.  There are now no "hotels" in Palm Cove, as far as the Chinese are concerned.

While of course the Shangri-La, Hilton, Holiday Inn, and a few others were deemed acceptable, there is the additional problem of no acceptable mid-range accommodation.  The Chinese were shocked to be taken to places on Sheridan Street that were proffered as quality midpriced hotels.

This is a major cultural faux pas that has the potential to derail the Chinese from Cairns.  Especially as Guam is gearing up for large numbers of Chinese traveling visa-free, and they already seem to have a handle on what's required.  

This analysis of Chinese tourism would seem to not have been read by staff at TTNQ.  

17 comments:

ruby said...

It is quite true that the monied Chinese, the nouveau riche, like all the trappings of a first class hotel. Do we have enough limos for them to hire in Cairns as well? Uniformed "Major Domos" and chauffeurs?? Lastly, China isn't as particular about the health of their population as we are. Are we prepared for the arrival of certain contagions??? Before you react by screaming, one of the universities in Brisbane ordered all of its students to be tested for tuberculosis last year after serveral Asian students tested positive. TB is rife in some Chinese provinces. We can't take a chance with this particularly now that Newman has axed the main T.B. treatment centre in Brisbane. We could be leaving ourselves even more vulnerable than we are now.

Anonymous said...

TTNQ needs the cupboard to be cleaned out and new young blood in there and as for Rob(fill my glass up)Gaisson he needs to be the first to go.

Anonymous said...

I see the Shangri-La is going to build the entertainment centre(of sorts) now that the new council hasn't got a clue how to go about it.Even with the 100million this council still walk about with their fingers in their bums and their minds in neutral.Imagine what this hotel facility will cost the end user to pay.I know from contacts the staff of this hotel aren't looking forward to the chinese tourists coming,their habit of spitting everywhere makes it a nightmare for cleanliness.

Anonymous said...

Spitting is one way to spread tuberculosis.

Jethro said...

We always said in this forum that a few individuals hoping to get their grasping paws on the huge Government funding, were behind the opposition to the Schier Council's community owned Entertainment Precinct. So here it comes. There can no longer be any doubts that Gavin King was a party to the conspiracy and deliberate hijacking of the Government funding. Look at what he said in todays "Cairns Post"....
"IT'S THE SORT OF PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WE'VE SAID ALL ALONG IS CRITICAL TO THE PROJECT."
They are King's own words, and indicate clearly his own complicity with the greatest swindle of taxpayers monies we have ever seen in this city.

jim-bob snr. said...

A lot of us knew damn well some sleazy slimy characters were after the funds. The Cairns Post is also complicit in this brazen swindle and corruption in that it is refusing to publish comments pointing out that King's opposition to the project was patently because of his secretive collusion with private operators. So what happens? Shangri-La gets over $100 million, thanks to sleazy King and Manning, and own the complex as a private asset. Charges and fees will be higher than what a community asset would be, because of it being a profit driven enterprise. Should it run out of funds or need repairs or whatever, the taxpayer will be called upon to prop it up as always happens with public-private partnerships. It's a win-win for Shangri-La and a lose-lose for the taxpayer and ratepayer. Frankly, I hope to God Swanny pulls the funding. In fact, Ive already said this somewhere before in Hillbilly Watch.

Anonymous said...

Look at all the naysayers now saying how great it would be to have a performing arts theatre in time for the G20 summit. Fuckwits. We could have had an iconic locally owned, community precinct to showcase to the world instead of a privately owned facility attached to a hotel. Jesus H. Christ. How bloody marvellous. Didnt we all say this before that some hotel would put their hands up for the funding, and use it for their own profits? Advertise as a "theatre hotel", get people to stay in their hotel, eat their meals drink their booze, and give them the BEST SEATS in the theatre to see shows? Didnt we?

Anonymous said...

I hope pearl,crockford,mackenzie and co jump right on this.Cairns rejected 100 million and wanted nothing to do with any entertainment centre that had rate payers money involved.Pearl worked liked the old busy body she was to make sure it never went ahead.With the possibility of using rate payers money for private enterprise is deplorable.If the hotel concerned wants the facility fine but finance it themselves.I know the feds will have a chuckle over the proposal.

Anonymous said...

PEARL, old bean, I hope you read this. You got exactly what you wanted. King and Manning want the new theatre to be privately owned, so when you decide to go and watch a show there, you will have to fork out MORE money to see it because it wont be Council owned. You may not even be able to get in to see a show because the privately owned hotel which will own the theatre will give out its seats to its patrons as part of a "show package" deal. Feel proud of yourself Pearl? I mean, what was in the whole thing for yourself? Understand now that you've been deceived, taken for a ride, manipulated, hoodwinked, robbed out of your taxpyers and ratepayers money, and what's more you will in all certainly have to fork out more ratepayers money to finish building the complex because all these public-private partnerships go over the original estimates and suck off the Government for more monies. Happy now Pearl?

Anonymous said...

This is possibly a great win for the ratepayers and will save not only money on construction costs but on Yearly running costs. It was stated that the CEP was going to cost 8 million dollars a year.
It also would be alot closer to all our restaurants and hotels instead of down the boon docks near the fertalizer shed. Win Win.

Mz. Elly-May said...

It is just absolutely brazen. If it goes ahead, it will be the classic case of taxpayers money being swindled off the taxpayer, through a cunningly orchestrated scare campaign. A scare campaign which was politically motivated, in that it saw the defeat of the female Mayor whose vision for Cairns entailed the need for a world class facility. Yes, the Pearls of this world are simple people and very easily deceived and manipulated. Let's not be too harsh on Pearl though. Cairns has thousands of Pearls, living and breathing, and as easily deceived as gullible, simple minded children.

jim-bob snr. said...

A win-win for private enterprise and a lose-lose for the public taxpayer, you sleazoid Anonymous 10.18. You know damn well that all public-private parternships have building costs which conveniently blow out of the original costings. As for yearly running costs, who in fucks name do you think will be asked to pay for this, you fool? And do you think a private hotel is going to allow all community groups in the region to use the facility at a low fee? What about schools holding their graduation ceremonies? What about the regional childrens eisteddfod? Is it right to hold that in a hotel? Finally, with the hotel ably to advertise show packages, how the fuck do you think is going to get the best seats? And would a private theatre allow all types of entertainment? What about improvements and extensions to this PRIVATELY owned theatre? Who the fuck do you think will have to cough up the loot for those? What about a carpark for the theatre? Just who do you think will also have to cough up the lolly for that? This is a win-win for a few private investors and a big lose, a big lose for the taxpayers.

Anonymous said...

This is a rotten idea.I think the way the pearls and mackenzies of this world ruined Vals progressive plan, anyone with common sense should start to voice their objections to this idea.Let the hotel run their own agenda,the council one day when common sense returns will run theirs.

Anonymous said...

I am surprised at the haste that they have announced this project with. You would have thought they would have waited a bit longer so that the short attention span electorate would not be able to figure out what has been going on.

Even idiots like Pearl will be able to put one and one together and realise that this is an enormous swindle, that must have been put into place well before the election.

I note that the Shangri-La is in a hurry to get the funds or else... funds that were site-specific and according to CAN'T DO are no longer available.

Well they managed to destroy the Pier, which is shunned by locals and tourists alike. See how much damage they can do to the car park.

It will be interesting to see where the building contracts will go. LNP mates ? maybe the former minister for brown paper bags could be made project manager...

Anonymous said...

I wonder where the increasingly successful and profitable Ironman Cairn event will go to if the car-park currently used for transition and start/finish is suddenly built on? This proposal will throw a serious spanner in the works since the event was significantly growing and could potentially jeopardise the future of the event and all the $ millions it brings.

Anonymous said...

Chinese would not be that interested in Cairns generally speaking. Need to target well in advertising.

Anonymous said...

But they would be interested in a CASINO wouldn't they -especially with dedicated flights from China -this is a huge market -wonder what the other Casino is going to do now??