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03 April 2013

BOOT CAMP LOCATION AND VENDOR BOTH LOOKING TO BE DUDS, WITH KURANDA HOPPING MAD AND CRIME SPECIALISTS GIVING A THUMBS DOWN ON THE CATASTROPHE

We're willing to give new Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie (say "Bligh") a pass on the debacle now being created by the LNP in Kuranda.  Bleijie (say "Bligh") wasn't fully across how stupid MP's Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King and Michael "Hide the Backhoe" Trout really are.



With ham-handed ignorance, King and Trout strutted like the two proud turkeys they are at the launch of the FNQ "Boot Camp" in a Kuranda residential development known as "Top of the Range".  Granted, Bleijie (say "Bligh") might have asked if a place callled "Top of the Range" was an appropriate location for a boot camp of recidivist juvenile offenders.  After all it wasn't put in "Beverly Hills".  

Well the gross stupidity exhibited by King and Trout is coming
home to roost, with Kuranda residents angry about the location and the rest of FNQ starting to realise that an "LNP Boot Camp" is looking a lot more comfy than an ALP prison cell.  The state has apparently purchased this house in what is clearly a residential area - sure the blocks are a little bigger, but its only a short walk to the Kennedy Highway.  So much for property values in this area - houses in the immediate area of the "boot mansion" are now unsellable.

And residents are hopping mad.

At the very least the residents deserved some notice, and a Material Change of Use order should have been requested from the Council.  But residents want to know why criminals are being stored in this formerly crime-free residential area, under the supervision not of trained security staff but the equivalent of a house mother.  


Likewise, the process for vetting and picking a boot camp operator was shrouded in mystery, with at least one vendor the choice being pushed by the Member for MacKenzie until a shady background started to leak out.  The vendor finally chosen, "Safe Pathways", was said in the Media Statement to have "20 years experience in providing human services. . . "   As an employment agency!  ZERO experience working with criminal, at-risk youths.  The Gold Coast winning boot camp tender?  "The Kokoda Challenge Association", with seven years experience and an isolated property at Lake Maroon.  

"Safe Pathways" or "Kokoda Challenge" - even the sound of the two shows how badly our local MP's have wimped out.  

With the residents of Kuranda demanding a meeting over the site selection consultation (NONE), the efficacy of the program and program managers was even under attack by anti-crime buffoon Barry Neale this morning.  Neale has sided with the Kuranda residents on the slip-shod planning that looks to have thrown all of these unworkable elements together.

It's a Dud with a capital "D".

Trying to stem the growing momentum against this idiotic plan, Youth Justice Services and the Safe Pathways vendor have arranged an "information session" tomorrow (Thursday), 4 April at 7:30 PM at the Old Kuranda School.

And while the "boot camp" was a promise of Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King to the electorate of Cairns, he's refused to attend instead sticking Trouty with the job.  Of course Michael Trout has extensive experience living with crims.  

Cairns has the youth crime problem, Cairns is the home to these little dickheads. Car theft is rampant across the city (but if you've left your keys in the car you deserve it).  But let Trouty clean up the mess.  Good onya, Gavin.  Your lack of testicles is a sight to behold.


49 comments:

KitchenSlut said...

"only a maximum of 5 young people at any given time can be housed within the residence"

Five? That's it? If that's an accurate reflection of the problem (and a solution) there must be more crocodiles in the Barron River than there are juveniles wandering the streets of Manunda at night!

Anonymous said...

No worst than building housing commisson units at Palm Cove.

KitchenSlut said...

BTW just to emphasise the hypocrisy here a comparable incident was the search for a location for Harald's House for homeless kids.

A charity backed by prominent LNP supporters although that should not reflect on a worthy project and human.

I was involved with the committee for a time and location of such was and always will be a problem. The solution was a donation of land prior to subdivision on the southside and facility would be there and any buyers into the community would be aware.

My friend Charlie McKillop who was heading the committee at the time chose to give this community based story exclusively to the Cairns Sun.

Enter Gavin King, Chief of Staff at the Cairns Post within the same News Ltd stable and responded quote:

"I don't accept sloppy seconds"

Consequently there was a story written by Margo Zlotkowski in the Post with references to paedophilia and razor wire! The vendor threatened to withdraw and so the deal fell over!

So it was that Gavin King managed to kill the project!

Anonymous said...

So are there to be more "Boot Houses" What about one at the canal estate at the end of Reed Road.

Anonymous said...

Not only that, during the day, they will be bussed to a Redlynch facility for "activities"...

Anonymous said...

What a farkin schmozzle; a lot of huffin and puffin, all for farkin nothing.

Anonymous said...

Wasn't it king who once said;quote,"the lnp couldn't run a tuck shop"end quote.

Tony Hillier said...

Kitchen Slut: It was fortunate that Charlie McKillop had first crack at the story. Charlie's a quality journalist with a conscience. King was never more than a self-serving, third-rate hack out to make a name for himself. Charlie, who stood for the seat of Leichhardt after Entsch's "retirement", would have made an infinitely better local member than King, who is far and away the most ineffectual and supine State member for Cairns in the 30 years that I've resided here.

ruby said...

Hear, hear Tony Hillier. Charlie would have made a far better Member for Cairns than King. However she would have been up against the forces of misogynism unleashed by the LNP against women political leaders.

Anonymous said...

I do recall an anonymous contributor stating very clearly in 2012 the boot camp was going to be secured by the alleged fraudster and alleged thief David Jackson from Team Wild (I have no yacht, as it has been taken off me)and then when the heat was applied General Bley picked who ever was next...what a waste of $2,000,000 dollars of tax payers money....

There is some suggestion that JAG is being reviewed for more than a couple of tender outcomes...there's one for you HBW

Anonymous said...

WTF Shanghai, don't Chinese make Boots ?

Anonymous said...

more scandal from the useless lnp donkeys we ended up with. the town is suffering and some non performer gets 2 million bucks to start a project in cairns in January and ends up finding a house in Kuranda....fukin disgraceful waste of tax payers money

shanghai said...

yeah their called bunderstones

Anonymous said...

Gavein King promised the local Hillbillies that he would deliver "Boot Camps" to put young offenders on the straight and narrow. The Hillbillies didn't really understand what "Boot Camps" meant but they loved the idea and voted accordingly. With the introduction of "Boot Camps" the LNP has thrown out the initiative introduced by the Borbridge Government in the late 1990's(and continued by successive Labor Govts.)of the system that made delinquents confront their victims, face up to their sins, apologize and then try to make amends. Now the LNP have us beleive that this is an initiative of the Left. As a result of deliquents confronting victims, the Childrens Court has reported a satisfaction rate of 98% amongst victims and villians. Instead of trusting the Courts and those who took part in Conferencing Gavein King and his Govt. prefers to listen to the Hillbillies who have been solely motivated by the words "BOOT CAMP" when a report a decade ago concluded that "Boot Camp" participants reported only short-term changes in attitudes and behaviour while they were there but in the long run did not lead to reduced relapses into crime. The New Zealand Govt. of 1971 was the first to set up "Boot Camps" in 1971 but these were abandoned in 1981. Gavein King has always been fond of sprouting leadership being shown by the LNP but when it comes to Juvenile Justice, he seems to follow the dictates of the ill-informed, fearful and vengefil Hillbilly Mob. Charlie.

Anonymous said...

LNP liars, shameful way to treat the citizens of Cairns...the masses voted for these fuck heads and yet they now say nothing?

Anonymous said...

King has never admitted the existence of the Borbidge Government, Charlie. He always says the "ALP have been in government in Queensland for the past 20 years."

jim-bob jnr said...

Christ or mighty I couldnt believe my farkin ears the other day listening to King and rugnut discussing bloody chocolate on the crap talk back program. After King whinged and whined that "Brisbane doesn't listen to us" when someone pointed out that this crap crocodile commitee doesnt have a single person on it from North Queensland. How the hell can "Brisbane", which is Kings own government, know anything when King is sitting on his sloppy arse all the time talking about chocolate and other drivel in Mackenzies studio? He seems to be in there every farkin day getting his head patted by his adoring old Nanny Mackenzie.

Anonymous said...

WTF Shanghai, did you say "Bunderstones yeah there called"

Bob R. said...

You are correct Charlie. The Rob Borbidge LNP Government (1996-1998) introduced Youth Justice Conferencing. It is just bizarre that the LNP today ignore Borbidge's term of office. It isn't just King who blithely lies about "20 years of Labor" either. All the LNP do. I wonder how Borbidge feels about being pissed on by his own?

Anonymous said...

Can anyone give some info on the meeting at Kuranda on Thursday? Rumour has it that Troutie was kept in the dark until all arrangements had been made about the location of the Boot Camp house and he is not a happy camper.

Bob R. said...

Anonymous, I only saw a brief TV news clip about it. Over 100 Kuranda residents attended the meeting and they were told that the location would stay and be reviewed in two years time. Well I think that was what was said. The whole "Boot Camp" thing seems to be a bloody schmozzle with no-one knowing anything much about it or what is happening. The media of course won't say anything critical of the Newman Government or the local LNP members so we're all left in the dark. Welcome to the LNP's version of "open and transparent" governing.

Anonymous said...

Looks like King has handed Troutie a shit sandwich..

KitchenSlut said...

"Charlie's a quality journalist with a conscience"

And yet Senator McLucas (ALP) chose to make an issue during the 2010 election re Charlie being employed by the ABC?

How Sad

Anonymous said...

There is some info on http://residentsagainstcrimes.com and more to come

Anonymous said...

Tony Hillier for Mayor

Things will be very different when Tony is in charge...

Anonymous said...

Won't happen. Tony supports the arts and you know what the hillbillies think about that!

Anonymous said...

Just to remind everyone that it is a BOOT HOUSE,not a boot camp.

Anonymous said...

unless the residents concerned can overturn the decision to house the home prison in their street it may only be a matter of time before they see and hear the reality of the fixed tender decision to engage a provider with no juvenile offender experience. there are some stakeholders in cairns who have been previously funded through child safety and communities in the past to provide 24 hour care, 7 days a week 52 weeks a year to youth at risk with high needs. In some cases providers have been awarded up to a million dollars a year in funding for one individual...no experience from safe pathways means it is not safe for the residents, the staff, and the offender

Anonymous said...

The residents will not be able to overturn the decision. The various representatives of the agencies involved made that very clear at the meeting.
Councils also apparently have no power to intervene as the house purchase was done privately by Safe Pathways and again it was stated that none of the councils in any of the proposed areas were consulted with in any way about the proposed locations of the residential.

Local councillor Jenny Jensen indicated that The Sustainable Planning Act over-rides any council jurisdiction over change of use of the property.

The issue for the residents was more about not being informed or consulted rather than the idea of the boot camp. Mr Trout inferred that he had no power to influence the decisions in any way and that he was as angry as the residents about the whole thing, angry enough to turn up 30 minutes late to the meeting anyway... He promised that if anything went wrong he would be up at the top of the range sitting outside the house protesting with the residents..... riiiight...

QPS suggested the residents start up a neighbourhood watch and put extra locks on their doors ! That was a (the) funny moment..

If anything goes wrong, the staff will be able to contact QPS for an immediate response, unfortunately the nearest manned stations at night are Mareeba and Smithfield, although it was suggested that an officer possibly sleeps at the Kuranda station, hope he is a light sleeper.

Mr Trout said he would have liked to see this run 'out bush' away from residential areas, especially as one of the proposed houses was close to his parents...

Was a pretty angry meeting and the conveners struggled to be allowed to talk through much of it.

Interesting was the motions put forward by one resident insisting that Mr Trout approach either the Premier or Attorney General:
(In brief)
1. Mr Trout to inform Premier that the meeting rejected the program in Kuranda.
2. The meetings disgust with the governments deliberate decision not to consult.
3. A demand that government immediately stops all activity regarding this ill conceived project pending sincere community consultation.

More if anyone is interested, otherwise I will save my typing fingers :)

JOHN MACKENZIE'S HILLBILLY WATCH said...

The residents will not be able to overturn the decision. The various representatives of the agencies involved made that very clear at the meeting.
Councils also apparently have no power to intervene as the house purchase was done privately by Safe Pathways and again it was stated that none of the councils in any of the proposed areas were consulted with in any way about the proposed locations of the residential.

Local councillor Jenny Jensen indicated that The Sustainable Planning Act over-rides any council jurisdiction over change of use of the property.

The issue for the residents was more about not being informed or consulted rather than the idea of the boot camp. Mr Trout inferred that he had no power to influence the decisions in any way and that he was as angry as the residents about the whole thing, angry enough to turn up 30 minutes late to the meeting anyway... He promised that if anything went wrong he would be up at the top of the range sitting outside the house protesting with the residents...... riiiight...

QPS suggested the residents start up a neighbourhood watch and put extra locks on their doors ! That was a (the) funny moment..

If anything goes wrong, the staff will be able to contact QPS for an immediate response, unfortunately the nearest manned stations at night are Mareeba and Smithfield, although it was suggested that an officer possibly sleeps at the Kuranda station, hope he is a light sleeper.

Mr Trout said he would have liked to see this run 'out bush' away from residential areas, especially as one of the proposed houses was close to his parents...

Was a pretty angry meeting and the conveners struggled to be allowed to talk through much of it.

Interesting was the motions put forward by one resident insisting that Mr Trout approach either the Premier or Attorney General:
(In brief)
1. Mr Trout to inform Premier that the meeting rejected the program in Kuranda.
2. The meetings disgust with the governments deliberate decision not to consult.
3. A demand that government immediately stops all activity regarding this ill conceived project pending sincere community consultation.

ruby said...

I hope everyone saw the paragraph in the letter to Residents by the Program Manager, Bobby Toleafoa, viz:
"Only young people THAT (should have been "who") consent to the Court Order and show a real commitment to change...are permitted into the Boot Camp."

So, it is all voluntary. Now seriously, how many young offenders are going to "volunteer" huh?

I agree, there has been negligible community consultation. In fact there has been very little community discussion over WHAT the Boot Camps will do. The entire issue was dominated and controlled by Gavin King, aided by John Mackenzie, during King's campaign to get elected. There was no comprehensive discussion or debate on the operations of Boot Camps, what would be involved etc., what outcomes were expected and the future of the offenders, what security would be in place for nearby residents etc. Nothing like this was ever discussed. It was all electioneering hype.

JETHRO said...

Well said there ruby. Indeed, what self respecting young hoodlum will "consent" to be sent along to a place where he or she will be supervised 24/7, made to do housework and other unpleasant chores and denied booze? I fear those who do agree would be those who would in time mature into good citizens anyway, while the really bad eggs stay away and mature into hardened crims.
I feel that if the Judge recommends they go to a Boot Camp then it should be mandatory, no ifs or buts about it.

Anonymous said...

Anon 19.05. you say some stakeholders secure funding of up to one million per year for one disengaged at risk youth and on this occasion this provider has been funded 2 million over 2 years. I recall seeing in the paper somewhere the provider has to work with 20 offenders per year. how much does it cost to provide support 24 hours a day seven day a week and all year long?

Anonymous said...

I have not seen one mention of the Boot Camp in the Cairns Post online -we have the worst news coverage of local issues in Australia. Thanks Rupert.

Anonymous said...

Anon 07:57
This is a different Anon but I will answer anyway. Those figures given are about right, Department of Communities funded services can receive between $800K and actually well over $1M per year for a house with 4 residents depending on the level of intervention. Some special cases can certainly top $1M and more for individuals. Those amounts are often not enough to actually do much that ensures a positive outcome for the residents though, bearing in mind that residentials usually house at-risk traumatised and abused children, not offenders.
The funding also does not usually include additional external costs. In the case of the bootcamps (which is Youth Justice funding) it is likely that Safe Pathways will use that money to fund just the residential component, as we must remember that the house only covers 1 month of the intervention/rehabilitation with each young offender, the rest being carried out in the community and at the offender's home with family. Any outside costs, of which there will be many, will be covered by the state or federally funded services or organisations providing them. So the figure of $2M is not really an accurate estimate of the final cost of a program like this. I would guess that we may never know the actual cost.

shanghai said...

wow boot camp sounds like my youth work sport respondability study sometimes all in the same day whats the big deal ? PARENTS are the role models not footballers mind you the work scape has changed but thats another story for another day

Anonymous said...

Anon 07.57 you appear to have some intimate knowledge of the process. I thought I saw in here or on the news the provider purchased the house so they either have a lot of moolah or they need the house for longer than a month. It is a month at a time for 20 offenders so I can't see the provider leasing the house when it is needed. One would suspect modifications to the house need to be made to prevent self harm. I would guess the money wasted is a lot and tax payers have been deceived by this shyster lead government, former reporter and trout whatever he did.

Anonymous said...

WTF Shanghai did you say? something about football boots, models respondability,and youth work all in the sameday and PARENTS big deal for another day.

Anonymous said...

Hi sorry yes, I was unclear in that comment. The house has been purchased outright. The program will run for the 2 year trial and will house a total of 20 offenders per year, maximum of 5 in the house at any one time. Each offender will only be in the house for 1 month so there is a possibility that the program will be running with no-one in the house at times.
As far as I know the house has not had the safety modifications carried out that would normally be required, for example, in halfway housing for people leaving detention. The property was only purchased 2 and a half weeks ago and such modifications can often cost as much as the house and would certainly take more time than is available.

Anonymous said...

why didn't they buy the house next to kings so as he could over see the waste of tax payers money.
I hope all the bleeding hearts are happy now,you voted for the lnp
now your getting shafted by them !!

Bob R. said...

I can't believe for a minute that Trout "didn't know" about the location in Kuranda. This seems to be LNP strategy - to avoid conflict with the constituents at all cost. There we have King talking away about "Brisbane" (his own farkin government) "not understanding the North" when trying to explain why FNQ didnt have a person on that crocodile committee so as to avoid criticism,now Trout claiming he "didn't know". Yeah, right. Self-serving liars and cowards the pair of them.

Anonymous said...

anon 1941. how did a provider win a tender that was meant to start in January when they only bought a residential facility two half weeks ago. it smells of lnp mates deals similar to the brown bag deals. In fact it just smells like corrupt activity

Seth said...

I doubt that Trout will take the meetings "disgust" to the Premier or Attorney General. I agree with old Jethro above, that Trout knew all about the location, but bunged on a bit of an act to avoid confrontation with the Kuranda people. How could he NOT know of it? He is the bloody Member and it was one of his party's Number One election promises.

John S. said...

Bloody amazing tactics the LNP use. It is either the fault of the ALP, either State of Federal. Or if it isn't the fault of the ALP, it is the fault of "Brisbane" or "I wasn't told, I didn't know."
What a slimy group of gutless grubs doing all they can to avoid taking responsibility for their own incompetence or their own governments decisions.

Anonymous said...

Looks like I'll have to dig out my old dial up modem to access the internet after the LNP gets elected in Sept and bastardises the National Broadband Network. Turnbullshit is no better.

mickwow said...

I just heard Trout speeking for the very first time.Where did this guy come from and what makes him think that he has any of the basic skills a public representative should have,eg being able to convey a message.He bumbled his way through the interview relying on "er" and"um"a lot and i really can't imagine him being able to resist Heir Newman on any local issue.Weak as piss as they used to say.

Anonymous said...

The short sighted voters of this area voted in these lowlife slimy gutless lnp member grubs. the layman can only hope the same short sighted voters don't push abbott to the throne. imagine how worse of we will all be. newman doesn't care about far north queenslanders either do the slimy, gutless grubs who are local members, including that fat stench. if abbott gets voted in with the stench then cairns will a beautiful place with miserable people

Sir Cus. said...

Boot Camp, PR exercise by Newman LNP prior election, now forced to act on promise turns into a shit fight. No planning, or consultation with local members,(they can blame themselves for that)dummies. A $400plus million extension to Lotus Glen with low security farm section attached not being staffed,now that is a proper Boot Camp.

Anonymous said...

You're right Sir Cus. What a bloody fiasco this whole thing has turned out to be. Nothing but a political PR exercise devised to entice the voters and ending up an expensive flop.