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12 May 2013

THE CAIRNS BICYCLE WAR CLAIMS ANOTHER CASUALTY UNDER SNIPER FIRE FROM SO-CALLED COMMUNITY LEADERS


We've all been profoundly saddened at the death of legal secretary and Taipans volunteer statistician Tanya Roneberg yesterday.  Ms. Roneberg was bicycling along the Captain Cook Highway near the Holloways Beach roundabout when she was struck from behind and murdered (vehicular homicide) by an allegedly intoxicated P-Plate driver - a 19 year old.

At 7:15 AM.  Drink driving at 7:15 AM!

Australia's continued hand-slap punishments for drink driving are a large part of the problem.  Here we have (allegedly) a young driver who didn't have the sense to drive sober.  And bicyclists are prime targets to drink drivers.  Frankly speaking, in a region like FNQ that leads Australia in drink driving arrests, bicycling is for fools.  But it shouldn't be that way.

According to the Queensland Police, Cairns has historically had a much higher rate of bicycle vs. auto accidents.   With the huge size and weight disparity, it's obvious who loses that battle.  This week, Ms. Roneberg.  In January 2009,  Dr. Hassam Elshazly.  He was killed on the Cook Highway at the Trinity Beach roundabout, which a coroner's inquest found grossly inadequate for safe bicycle travel.  With FNQ roads known to be substandard relative to Brisbane, structural changes to these roundabouts that had been ignored by Main Roads for years suddenly got done quick-smart.

While people quite often criticise the American legal system
that seems to be "lawsuit crazy", it's this access to the legal system and financial penalties that serve to stop this kind of government bullshit there.  Dr. Elshazly was the first to be killed at these substandard roundabouts, but bicycle riders for decades had complained about the unsafe nature of these non-standard roundabouts.  Lawsuits filed against Main Roads would have gotten them fixed much earlier, and saved Dr. Elshazly's life.

Just this week, the Bob "Sleepy" Manning council approved expenditure of $2.8M to begin work on the Southern Cycleway, running from the CBD to Woree.  This bikeway comes from the (dis)Unity Council, despite the fact that many of these same councillors threw rocks at former Mayor Val Schier and her council's construction of the Aeroglen cycleway!  And the Manning council is getting a much smaller contribution from Gavin King's LNP for it.  Two-faced politics is alive and well.

Cueball MacKenzie used the Aeroglen bikeway as an attack platform on the Schier council, and many of the usual callers were goaded to pile on.  The same cretins have been silent as the Manning council spends a similar amount for the Southern Bikeway.  And some of the biggest attacks on the cycleway projects have been from UnSir Bob Norman, failed ice cream entrepreneur, rejected Chamber president, and now hospital czar.  Norman claims to have found a map that uses the Spence Street right-of-way as additional southern access to the CBD, and then whinges about the lack of forward planning in Cairns.  Conveniently ignoring his long tenure as Chamber of Commerce head, Norman needs a good mirror to see one of the city's major shortcomings.  

On Friday, "Ken the Cabbie", a hillbilly regular, bitched and moaned to Cr. Schilling that "he wouldn't see five bicycles a week coming into the CBD from the south".  Schilling is known to hate the bikeways, but like all councillors succumbed to the lure of state funding.  With this council knocking back over $120M in Australia's most expensive "get square" against the previous council, it's looking that they've learned their lesson.

Sadly however we've had another killing on our roads of an innocent cyclist by someone who'll get a slap on the wrist and out on the highways again soon.

UPDATE:  THE "UNNAMED" (WTF IS THAT ALL ABOUT) 19-YEAR-OLD ALLEGED KILLER HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH ONE COUNT OF DANGEROUS DRIVING CAUSING DEATH, AND ONE OF DRINK DRIVING.

WHY HAS HE BEEN UNDERCHARGED?  HE SHOULD BE CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER. 

53 comments:

JETHRO said...

I well recall the way the LNP viciously attacked the Schier Council on their pro-bicycle stance. So here we see, yet another about-face from this duplicitous LNP dominated council with the Southern access bikeway being approved. Any half witted moron should realise we cannot keep on adding thousands of cars year after year as the city and region continues to grow onto our roads. Bicycle riding was quite common in Cairns up until the mid 1960s when cheap Japanese cars became affordable. Many blokes I know rode their bikes to the sawmills or the wharves to work.

Anonymous said...

This is gut wrenching news. Our sympathy to Tanya's family and her many friends.

Anon No. 4 said...

I well recall the encouragement 4CA gave to the anti-bicycle brigade. This radio station basically declared open season on bicyclists. I suggest bicycle fatalities be referred to as 4CA McKenzies.

Anonymous said...

When will this useless Government and the previous one learn that bicycles and cars and trucks don't mix. Bicycle riders should have there own designated track not just tacked onto the side of a fucken highway. Anyone foolish enough to ride a bicycle on a road where cars and trucks are traveling at speeds of 100kmh within 1 metre from you, if do so a there own risk. If anything the Government should be held responsible for the deaths of those cyclists that have been killed on the Captain Cook Highway as they are the ones that have forced cyclists to ride on them.

Anonymous said...

anon 11.31 there are just so many things wrong with your statements that I can't be bothered pointing them out. Ring up your friend Macca and see what he has to say about this.

Tony Hillier said...

Hundreds of cyclists are currently out on the roads training hard for the upcoming Iron Man and Half Iron Man — events that have truly re-established Cairns on the international triathlon map and been a much-needed economic boon to our region. Hundreds more bike riders from interstate and overseas will be joining them in the next few weeks. Council signs erected at roundabouts (especially at the northern beach turn-offs) warning cyclists to take special care and advising motorists likewise, would be a very wise investment.

Anonymous said...

This council have been aware of the multi million dollar investment the Cairns Airport Festival brings to the city and region (business bought in by val shiers) for over 12 months and yet with less than 4 weeks to go didn't have the common sense or decency to ensure all the cyclist training up and down the captain cook highway were provided respite from the dangers across the white line. There should be signs alerting drivers to cyclists and there should be support vehicles such as the police to ensure the cyclist who bring money here can train in safety. Another example of the disfunction of that useless mayor and councillors linked to him

TAS said...

This HBW article is spot on regarding the short-sighted and selfish thinking of the current administration (and their cronies) regarding bikeways. However, this most recent death is more about the drink - and drink/drive culture in the Far North than bikeways.
The (allegedly) drunken moron who caused this death was apparently so drunk, he hit the guard rail before hitting Tanya Roneberg and throwing her over the guard rail and into Thomatis Creek. Obviously, if there was a dedicated bikeway, and she was on it, it would have been 'just another drunk' smashing up his car.
Yes, we need bikeways to separate cars and bikes wherever possible, but we also need a culture of careful sober compliant drivers in roadworthy vehicles to 'look bike'.
I would contend that a significant increase in police of our roads looking for drunk and drugged drivers, unroadworthy cars, hoons, and the like would cost the community less in the long run. The standard of behaviour on Northern roads is abysmal and nothing is going to change without a concerted ongoing police presence in marked and unmarked cars.

Anonymous said...

He was drunk, so maximum charge for manslaughter. While he is in the nick I hope he gets buggered 10 times a day by a hairy and angry 200 kg inmate.

Anonymous said...

Cook Highway is the responsibility of the state. Council couldnt put signs out there even if they wanted to.

Anonymous said...

politicising a tragic death while a family grieves, complete with a segue of blame on to a council. The state have responsibility for the Highway.The ghost of barfly joins in and we have the entertainment for the day. Always worth a read though, the bitter and resentful need their moral compass too.

Brett Hitchens said...

Wouldn't it be safer if cyclists rode facing oncoming traffic?

Anonymous said...

So you call it entertainment Anonymous 19:33 you sick bastard. I would call it frustrated anger over a life that was needlessly lost.

Em said...

Most of the comments are from people arguing and advertising their favourite political party (through putting down the "other"). RIP Tanya Roneberg, those people arguing don't give a crap about you and they don't care- they're using you to further themselves. I hope the driver gets what he really deserves.

Anonymous said...

Justice is temporary, conscience is forever

Anonymous said...

My heart breaks for the family of this terrible incident.
I have ridden bikes all my life and hate how dangerous it is now to ride a bike. Would love to see my kids ride to school but no way would I let them. Bike riders have the right to use the roads but the reality is there is always going to be someone behind the wheel doing something wrong. I know someone who killed another driver while Texting but see people texting while driving every day of the week. Unfortunately between a bike and a car there is only ever going to be one loser.

On bike paths, You can build them but that doesn't mean people will use them. Driving along Aeroglen last week there was a cyclist in lycra riding along the road while right next to him was a 2m wide 6 million dollar bike lane. Similar thing happens at Raintree's where they have tried to get people to cross Alfred St safely at traffic lights but the fence along the middle island keeps getting destroyed as people would rather risk dodging traffic to save a couple of minutes.

Please think of your own safety.

Anonymous said...

Wonder how many other drunk drivers were on this highway that morning but didn't kill themselves or anyone else. I bet the numbers would astound you. Sadly, a fact of life here in the Far North, even the Hon Warren Enstch Member for Leichardt has been convicted for it.

bitch said...

very very tragic/sad that a person is killed while trying to exercise her right to use the road and maintane a positive healthy lifestyle... good point about other phamthom drivers whom continuously get around "off their chops"

Dean said...

If Bob Norman had looked at the plans close enough, he would have seen the dedicated bike path running alongside the proposed Spence Street extension.

Separated bike paths are preferred, but there's no reason bicycles shouldn't be safe on the roads, except for poor driving (which is obviously the case here). Using a clear cut case of driver negligence to promote the separation of bikes and cars places too much emphasis on the road environment and not enough on the continued problem of incapable or incapacitated drivers.

It distorts the situation as one of predominantly a design/construction problem when the real problem is driver behaviour. By blaming the road you only give more excuses to the other bad drivers.

I agree they should be improved, but it's no excuse for the constant driving errors which are costing cyclists their lives.

CBD Warrior said...

Because we have no primary compulsory driver's training here, I find most people are unaware at the danger they are in to drink drivers.

Although a Cairns native, my family spent several years in Canada where I learned how to drive as part of my high school requirements. And I know drink drivers and their impairment makes them likely to drive into parked cars, lighted objects, and bicyclists. We were taught that if our car should breakdown, we put on the emergency flashers and then get out of the car and wait in a safe place. Especially at night, the drink drivers will then drive into these stationary vehicles in their attempt to follow another car.

HBW has is squarely on point: the primary issue is the lack of punishment for drink driving. Where is "zero tolerance" Newman on this?

Anonymous said...

Totally Agree with Compulsory Driver Training and it should start in school and continue on for the rest of your life. On average each year in australia there are

600,000 reported road crashes

200,000 reported injuries

22,000 serious injuries requiring long-term care and treatment

1,700 people killed in road crashes

Day to day driving a car is the most dangerous thing we do and how much training do we do for it.

Anonymous said...

There are places in Australia, Perth for example where cycling is made safe by virtue of the amount of dedicated cycling paths. Of course bloggers you can blame poor driving behaviour on most incidents or accidents however if dedicated cyclist lanes and pathways were in place and more people felt safer and used them more often the culture of cyclist safety or 'share and care' would be greater and accordingly you could expect to see less division between road users. Cycling friends tell me in Perth it is a significantly safer and more enjoyable experience than it is cycling in and around Cairns and the region. It is not that hard to share

ruby said...

I much prefer to walk to places rather than cycle. One place where I have been almost knocked down by cars, time and time again is at the entrance to "The Doctors" along Mulgrave Road. It is a major medical centre, patronised by frail old folk, mothers pushing prams, young children and so on. Yet when people drive into the driveway from Mulgrave Road, they accelerate and "gun" their car over the dip, then immediately jam on the brakes so there is a huge squeal of protesting brakes and burning rubber, and you see the driver saying "SHIT!" as they narrowly miss an old person hobbling across to the car park on a walking stick or with a zimmerframe. It is only a matter of time before someone is hit. It is a classic case where many drivers just don't think.

Jethro said...

Well said there ruby. Pedestrians are at risk of being hit, injured or killed as well by poor drivers. I know the entrance you are talking about and also believe it is only a matter of time before someone there is killed by a fool accelerating as they drive into a Medical Centre.

Anonymous said...

Yesterday on the Cueball show, an old fart named Ron called and complained that the beaches roundabouts are too difficult to negotiate because of the bollards erected to stop cars infringing onto the cycle lane. Ron, if you are so incompetent at operating a motor car please hand your license in before you kill someone. Drivers of B-double trucks have no problem getting through these roundabouts.

On another matter; that smug, clueless, arse-kisser Raj rang Cueball today informing the 5 listeners that Samsung has announced that it is developing technology that could deliver 5G speeds. Then Cueball says "so we didn't need the NBN after all?" Raj goes on to say we could have saved Billions of dollars. Firstly this new tech is for MOBILE devices, its not due til 2020 and its NOT a replacement for broadband. Raj, read the full article, if you can, you dumbass.

Anonymous said...

Raj is such a fuckwit! Why is he stealing our oxygen?

Bob R. said...

Off topic, but on the front page of todays Cairns Post is a suggestion by Bob Norman that the word "Base" be left out of Cairns Base Hospital in order to attract more staff and funding etc. Funny when Kirsten Lesina suggested the same thing during the last State election campaign, she was ridiculed all over town. One rule for the girls, another for the boys. What a fucken rednecked town this is.

Anonymous said...

McKenzie opposes the NBN because its only purpose is apparently for people to download movies. How utterly ignorent can you get.Surely the man can't be that dumb that he believes that ? So he is just peddling lies to enttain the poor ill-informed rednecks, who want to go back to the days when you could shoot and slash everything and bleckfallas and women knew their place.

Raj was singing the praises of our phantom Mayor today, because of the way he has apparently balanced the CRC's budget. Raj reckons that Bob should be Australia's new treasurer. Imagine that; he could bring the whole country to a stand still instead of just our region.

Anonymous said...

Raj here! Yes I no i'm a arse licking dumbass, and there was only 1 listeners as 4 pissed off as soon as I got on. Firstly I was talking about my 1985 5 speed Corolla that has a Samsung CD player that I listen to Kahmal on. So who is Smug and clueless now. Anon 13:37

CBD Warrior said...

I heard the alleged murderer drink driver had just taken a Danish backpacker back to her accommodation in the CBD, after scooping her up the night before. I hope he enjoyed it - if we're lucky he'll only be fucking blokes for the next few years.

Anonymous said...

CBD Warrior 23:20, I bet he'll be back out on the road doing the same shit and fucking his Danish backpacker. He will employ one of those low life Lawyers and we no that Australia has not have a deterrent Justice system and he'll walk free. The only ones that will be punished are those blokes in prison waiting to fuck him.

Anonymous said...

The gall of that total slime bag Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King. He posts this on his Facebook page about the tragic death of Tanya Roneberg: "More awareness, more thought, more mutual respect"

Such hypocrisy from a bloke who proudly wrote this previously:

"I still don’t believe we need to build bike paths at the moment.
They are not urgent and there is no critical mass to support the use of bike paths. Not by a long shot."

9 April 2011
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2011/04/09/158175_local-news.html

"They should forget their delusional vision of a bike riding utopia in the Far North"

2 April 2011
http://www.cairns.com.au/article/2011/04/02/157145_theking.html


Crawl back in the hole you came out of King.

Politicians should be IQ tested said...

As predicted by another commenter King and Manning were on the local 7 TV news bitching about the lack of funding for FNQ from the federal budget. Village idiot Manning was then questioned about the funding he rejected last year by saying the CEP is now a 'dead duck' and they never had the funding 'in their hands' and that the ratepayer will now pay more for the city upgrade. King doesn't give a shit about bike lanes and he doesn't give a shit about Cairns. That's why after over a year he still hasn't done anything.

jim-bob jnr said...

Christ, what a tool King is. Did he ever think before he wrote??? He just attacked the idea of bicycle paths because Val Schier supported them. Tool.

Anonymous said...

King is gone at the next election. Trouty fish has a safer margin. He is so stupid we never hear him in the media. OK Steve W wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed but he at least got out and about in Barron River. Trout is invisible.

Anonymous said...

How about that childish comment by Manning about "pots of gold under a desk in Canberra, just waiting to pass around before the election in September". This man is Dopey and Sleepy all in one! Then we have Enstch bad mouthing the Treasurer for not handing back the $40M previously given to the Val Schier council for the Entertainment Precinct. Excuse me Warren, but Manning and King and the LNP gave that money, land and more back. Don't expect any favours . Cairns misses out again because of your foolish decisions. Go find a dugong for a change!

Bob R. said...

Manning gave back the funding for the Entertainment Precinct AND the $38 million for the CBD upgrade. So now he's whinging and whining that we have no money for a new theatre???? Is the man alright in the head? HELLO? Anyone home up there Manning? Remember the first thing you did last year when you were elected as Mayor? We all remember it thats for fucken sure. So King was standing beside Manning hey. Probably making sure the old fool said the right things.

Jethro said...

Trouty is engaged in the political tactics of making himself as small a target as is possible, hence not in the firing line for criticism or public angst. However I predict he will also be done like a dogs dinner at the next State Election.

Tell the truth said...

Never had CEP funding in their hands? Really? Funding contracts were signed with the State and Commonwealth Governments. Progress payments by both over three years were included in the terms of the agreements. Since when is a legal contract not a legal contract?

Anonymous said...

I was reminded of Donald Rumsfeld when I heard our esteemed Mayor Manning on Tv talking about the funding for the CEP -"if it's in your hand or if it's not in your hand" etc etc -sounded just like the "known knowns and the unknown knowns".
and it looks like Wazza made a boo boo about the MP's leave application to care for a sick child -more lies from the LNP.

Anonymous said...

Just heard Manning on Cueball again raving on about his pots of gold etc. He is planning this city's progress on supposition - hoping and praying that the Feds give him some funds before the election. What a boring, boring conversation with McKenzie. He has no "bounce" in whatever he says. How on earth did this fine city end up with a dithering old fool as our leader??

Anonymous said...

We have been all delt a fucked hand in Cairns, in only 12 Months the people have had enough off the LNP and wish the next election would hurry up. 4 complete fuck wits running our city. I also heard that 4CA is having a name change to 4LNP.

Anonymous said...

BRING BACK VAL

TAS said...

Today, there was a celebration of the life of an inspirational young woman, Tanya Roneberg, killed doing the thing she loved, by a drunken P-plate driver. So many lives ruined in an instant.
Tonight, tomorrow night, and every night henceforth, there will be more drunken drivers, passing this same piece of road, or skulking around the back roads, taking their chances. When you're drunk and stupid, the risk seems minimal. That's because the risk is minimal. Our own federal member of parliament is one of them; a convicted drunk driver. The drinking and road culture here in the Far North is abysmal, everyone knows it, everyone seems to accept it. Well, perhaps if this death is to have any positives, it can only be a rejection of this culture, a serious and concerted effort to get idiots and drunken drivers off our road. And not just on New Years eve - every day of the week 24/7.
Policing doesn't cost, it saves.

Anonymous said...

So Entsch reckons he didn't know the reason for the pairing? He signed this letter. Let's hope he didn't drive home afterwards.
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/coalition-to-grant-pair-for-mp-michelle-rowland-to-be-with-her-sick-baby/story-e6frfkp9-1226643689970

Anonymous said...

To be honest I am surprised that this kind of accident occurred where it did....and the alleged circumstances bear this out. I drive the Cook highway regularly and the athletes are virtually without exception aware and law abiding. I am happy to share the road, but in Cairns itself there are any number of idiot cyclists who cycle against traffic, fail to signal intention, ride the wrong way around corners (very dangerous) and run red lights. It is truly a wonder that a truck or bus has not squashed one yet. There is no question that we should be investing in cycle lanes north and south, however cyclists need to follow road rules when on the road if they wish to live. Like it or not idiot drivers are to a degree protected by metal, idiot cyclists just get squashed.
As to 4CA, I strongly suspect that most of the listeners to Macca are to found here. Here is a tip, if all change stations you will feel better......

Anonymous said...

To be honest I am surprised that this kind of accident occurred where it did....and the alleged circumstances bear this out. I drive the Cook highway regularly and the athletes are virtually without exception aware and law abiding. I am happy to share the road, but in Cairns itself there are any number of idiot cyclists who cycle against traffic, fail to signal intention, ride the wrong way around corners (very dangerous) and run red lights. It is truly a wonder that a truck or bus has not squashed one yet. There is no question that we should be investing in cycle lanes north and south, however cyclists need to follow road rules when on the road if they wish to live. Like it or not idiot drivers are to a degree protected by metal, idiot cyclists just get squashed.
As to 4CA, I strongly suspect that most of the listeners to Macca are to found here. Here is a tip, if all change stations you will feel better......

jim-bob jnr said...

Hey Manning,the Entertainment Precinct was SHOVEL READY. The signs were up the contractors engaged. Dont give us shit aboutr not having the money.

Anonymous said...

King is all but done, his supporter base has gone just read his fakebook the chinese are not coming, i hear due to his previous comments ie freaks and weirdos they are smart people and will not wear insults like he has dished out and i hear from a tourist bus driver that the japanese are not coming as well so all the king hype is just pure bullshit

Seth at Port said...

"Pots of gold in Canberra", jesus farken christ have you ever heard such drivel? What ganga is Manning on, I want some. Gives you all a clue what Stench is going to "fight on" this coming election doesnt it? Slimy bastards.

Anonymous said...

Agree totally TAS.

Anonymous said...

Queensland is truly a redneck state and general the attitude on QLD roads towards cyclists will never change unless the laws are changed to provide cyclists with some legal protection. Motorists should be forced BY LAW to provide at LEAST one metre clearance when passing a cyclist and if they are not able to do that due to the nature of the road they should fucking wait until the road is clear. Simple stuff really, but our hick LNP pollies are too busy being arrogant dickheads.

Katzo said...

I would like to state that I'm a cyclist and resent the parlous state of the roads, the stupid behaviour of many cyclists and the ignorance of motorists. I am also a boatie but would never attempt life threatening behaviour.There are so many criticisims to make about Cairns roads and users that it is difficult to know where to start. But let's try tourism and the fabled "pot of gold". Those who think that Rust Man Triathlon is a boon should also look at the other gimmicks used to make dollars in this land of Fast Buck.Gimmicks forced on a population who sees the quality of life continually eroded so that cueballs can get wealthier.We must stop prostituting our environment in the name of more dollars, Tony Hillier. The Cook highway is NOT appropriate for cycling. Where speed limits are 80kph on single lanes with double centre lines on curves cyclists are begging to be run over.It's a fallacy about the dough rolling in.During the Triathlon, many businesses are retarded at the pier, the esplanade and Port Douglas during the event.The number one highway in australia is closed down to thousands upon thousands of citizens so that a couple of hundred zealots can battle for dollars and glory!Until residents have demanded that Governments provide safe cycleways then they should not scream every time a life is lost. Risk taking has hazardous outcomes.