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07 August 2013

AQUIS GREAT BARRIER REEF RESORT - QUEENSLAND GOVERNMENT FILING (JULY 2013)

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40 comments:

Clifton Beach Resident said...

Hmmmm 27 stories and the flight path is where??

Anonymous said...

Can you imagine Cyclone Yasi crossing to the north of this site on a high tide? Good bye everything in its path and who pays for the damage? Hinchinbrook on a bigger scale. By 2030 we can expect more severe cyclones. Abbott says climate change is crap by the way. Not to mention acid sulphate soils, fisheries habitat, etc, etc.

KitchenSlut said...

"Close by attractions include Skyrail, Cairns Kart Hire, Cable Ski Hire, Tjapukai Aboriginal
Cultural Park, Golf Driving Range, Half Moon Bay Golf Club."

No blazing saddles? Have requested a copy of the full KPMG report with no response!

Jethro said...

An interesting read. Thanks HBW. I note mention of global warming and expected consequences thereof. Interesting that Tony Abbott the next Prime Minister (according to Murdoch) has dismissed global warming as "a load of crap." I see several blocks of land are contained within the AQUIS proposal not just the old Pappalardo cane farm. Be interesting to see just who owns them all, and if there were recent sales, that is going back a couple of years. You can bet your bottom dollar a few known names come up. I note it is subject still to Federal Government approval. Henceforth certain LNP identities will be going all out to see that Abbott is elected no doubt. Lastly I see where a "community reference group" is to be established. I don't hold out hope that it will be an impartial one.

Anonymous said...

My God - it looks fantastic !!!

C'mon Cairns - smell the roses.

The Entertainment Precinct and Rectangular Stadium are provided.
Plus a golf course, an aquarium and a water park - all at no cost to the tax/ratepayers.

Winners are grinners and that's what we are ...

:)

Bazza said...

No real surprise to see the results of poll in CP today, 68%-32%, for this crap, the locked on rip off/ freeloaders are always out there to take over proper opinion. Cant wait to see arsehole mckenzees poll, it will be at least 95%-5% because of the bludgers who support him will be on their network to ring in asap.

Anonymous said...

There hasn't been any balanced debate on it, that's why Bazza. The only information allowed through the media machine is the "jobs, jobs, jobs" mantra.

Anonymous said...

Wonder how much business the rectangular stadium at AQUIS is going to suck away from the current sports clubs and fields? Also wonder how much custom AQUIS is going to filch off the current entertainment venues for big name acts? Ditto how much revenue will it suck away from the current Cairns Convention Centre? Yeah, I can imagine Cairns morons all going ballistic over it, and when AQUIS kills the local businesses stone cold dead, the whinging, whining, moaning and bellyaching will start. AQUIS is going to do to Cairns tourist businesses what Cairns Central did to the CBD. A slow death.

Anonymous said...

Let the Bogans have their glory, and lets hope future governments say sorry but we told you so.

Anonymous said...

I can't believe the negativity on this blog. The proposed CEP would have also been devastated by a cat 5 as would most of Cairns. If you start thinking glass half full instead of half empty Cairns might have a chance. Basically if it is not a Labor project, you guys hate it, and you would love to see it stalled for years with red and green tape. Get a grip, you are worse than any narrow minded Bogan. At least most Bogans admit to their tunnel vision after a few Bourbons!

Bob R. said...

Anonymous 07.53, the Entertainment Precinct would have spread monies around Cairns. People coming to attend a conference at the extended Convention Centre would have stayed at various hotels, eaten at various restaurants. With the AQUIS proposal, conference delegates will most likely stay there at the AQUIS resort and eat at AQUIS restaurants. Ditto with show performances. People will book to see a show and book their accommodation at AQUIS, eat at their restaurants etc.
How can you say this is a good thing? Are you on Tony Fung's payroll?

ruby said...

Remember the campaign John Mackenzie and certain others like Gavin King launched against the Entertainment Precinct, calling it a "white elephant"?? Doesn't this provide every clear indication that the campaign against the Entertainment Precinct was deliberately orchestrated? The AQUIS Resort is about a hundred times larger than the Entertainment Precinct, so the question begs, Why isn't Mackenzie, King and company all roaring away that this would also be a white elephant?
There can be no doubt that Mackenzie was also in on this disgraceful deceit.

Observer said...

Fung would not be willing to spend $4 billion on a single complex without expecting some realistic returns. His complex will unquestionable attract a large swathe of the Chinese and Asian tourist market. With aggressive marketing, his AQUIS Resort will most certainly dominate the convention trade and poach it from the city. Entertainers are also more likely to be attracted to the AQUIS because of the facilities and performing arts theatres, hence attracting trade from places like Brothers, the Casino, Kuranda Ampitheatre, the Civic Theatre and so on.
Fung is a shrewd businessman and would not be taking any gamble on this huge resort. I predict AQUIS would be a highly aggressive competitor in the tourist trade in North Queensland and many existing operators will quickly go under.
There appears to be no such considerations given to its impact on the existing tourist operators. We have a precedent in Cairns, and that is the building of Cairns Central which sucked away the business trade from the CBD almost overnight. AQUIS is too huge not to have any major impact on our existing businesses. I foresee that falling profits amongst city tourist operators will see further Chinese investors buying up these hotels at fire sale prices. Make no mistake, AQUIS is set to change the tourist industry here in the Far North in ways most people cannot imagine.

Clifton Beach Resident said...

I agree Bob R, AQUIS will be like a land based cruise ship. All the entertainment, accomodation, meals and gambling all contained in one package. No need to "come ashore" until it is time to leave, when the passengers will be escorted to the airport in AQUIS transport.

Anonymous said...

This announcement is just a huge diversion to stop comments on job losses, cost of living and how bad the Newman Government is. Get over it people, after the Federal election, it will all be scrapped.

Anonymous said...

The CBD can then go back to being a shanty town. Maybe Grafton street could accommodate some old fashioned opium dens and flop houses, just like in the good old days...

ruby said...

Anonymous 09.11, I don't think it will "all be scrapped". AQUIS now have a shop front in Cairns Central where they are providing information to residents and say they want feedback. It's all very slick and monied and $$$$$$$ high sell.
They also have a facebook page.

Neil said...

Of course it is going to have a major impact on the entire tourist industry. The lucrative convention trade will be lost to the city in its entirety for a start. The current Casino may as well just up and close its doors. Give it a couple of years and I foresee more Chinese buying into the tourist industry, buying up on the cheap. The gang of self serving men who are behind this don't give a shit what happens to Cairns. I can picture them all on the Gold Coast enjoying a wealthy comfortable retirement with their trophy brides and toyboys, laughing, laughing and laughing at how they dudded Cairns out of its only industry and gave it to the Chinese to make their money.

Anonymous said...

"how they dudded Cairns out of its only industry and gave it to the Chinese to make their money."

For God's sake - BRING BACK VAL!
She will defend Cairns!

Diana said...

Yes Val and her Entertainment Precinct were a real threat to AQUIS. The Entertainment Precinct would have seen the benefits of convention and cultural tourism spread around the city, as people were left to choose their hotels and accommodation, restaurants and shopping places. However the gigantic AQUIS is a one-stop shop so to speak. You see a show and a game there, gamble there, drink there, eat there and stay there.
What's it going to be like for us locals who want to see a show at AQUIS? We will have to undertake a long drive at night, along the Capt Cook Highway, bumper to bumper and finally have to walk about a kilometre or two to get into the complex. When we do, we will probably be allocated seats way at the back, the best seats going to AQUIS patrons. The traffic will be phenomenal, beyond our current experiences.












Anonymous said...

"It's at no cost to ratepayers".
The cost however will be the ruin of many existing hotels, accommodation businesses, restaurants and tour operators as AQUIS siphons off their custom, as they will do. The cost will be, as Neil has succinctly written, seeing our one industry handed over to the Chinese. The price we pay will be devastating for Cairns.

ruby said...

I can't help but wonder if Bob Manning was left out of the loop on this AQUIS proposal. He has been made to look like a bloody MUG running around hither and thither with a new performing arts theatre. I have kept all the press releases from The Cairns Post concerning his different plans since he was elected Mayor as to what he is going to do for a new theatre. Either he was left out of the loop or he was just full of shit and bullshitting away to keep the AQUIS proposal secret until it was a done deal. Whatever, it doesn't look good for a Mayor not to informed on the biggest development ever in the region, right from the beginning, does it? Manning has either been used and played for the fool he is, or he is as sly and underhand as Tenni, Trout and co.
Neil has put AQUIS in a nutshell. We are handing over our only viable industry in FNQ to the Chinese.

Mooroobool girl said...

Diana, AQUIS will have a fleet of buses to transport patrons to the resort. Or they might throw the Cairns Regional Council or Sunbus a few crumbs and allow them to operate a bus service to AQUIS for non resort patrons to see a show or a game. I agree with Neil. We are handing our only viable industry to the Chinese. A few men and women in this city have their pieces of silver and have sold us out.

DISGUSTED said...

ruby, you are as sharp as ever. It is doubtful that Bob Manning was left out of the loop right from the beginning. Tenni is a mate of his from way back and wouldn't have hesitated in passing on details of the deal to Manning. That's not idle speculation either, but rather a deduction based on reasoning. Did members of the Unity Team know? How do they all feel now after spruiking that Val's Entertainment Precinct would have been a "white elephant" but Tony Fung's AQUIS Resort, which is at least ten times bigger isn't a white elephant? Do they realise what fools they now seem?
It is crystal clear now that Manning and this Unity Team were backed for a single purpose and that was to kill the Entertainment Precinct and make way for the AQUIS Resort. This looks like a fait accomplait. The fools have done the job they were duped into doing.

Bob R. said...

Idiotic pawns in a high stakes scam on the people and tourist operators of FNQ, that is the role of the current Unity Team. Simple minded, dull witted, self serving imbeciles who all joined in a "pussy hating" campaign led by Gavin King and John Mackenzie, for an easy victory. So the pawns did what they were told to do, killed the Entertainment Precinct. Then they showed all their teeth and hugged themselves and thought how clever, how intrinsically Clever they all were. Meanwhile, behind closed doors the people who bankrolled the Unity Team and who paid Mackenzie to do his assassin's work, were negotiating with the Hong Kong billionaire to build a mini city. The plans were taken to Newman's State Cabinet who secretly approved them.
It is almost unbelievable how this city has been duped, scammed, deceived, fucked over and ultimately sold out by a group of crooked individuals and a few half witted imbeciles with the intelligence IQ of ossified dogs turds. Give it a few years after AQUIS commences operation and downtown Cairns will resemble downtown Detroit alright.

Jethro said...

You got it right Bob R. Looking at the Unity Team line up it is highly unlikely any of them had the intelligence that they were being used as pawns in a very high stakes deceit. If they hadn't been ego driven and susceptible to the misogynistic hate mongering of Mackenzie and King, they might have used reasoning to deduct something was wrong, wrong, wrong. Instead they saw an easy comfortable effortless ride into a highly paid job for themselves with little to do but nod their heads, after which they will all piss off for comfortable retirements somewhere. They have demonstrated they have no scruples or integrity or any feelings for the survival of the city, so we can judge that they will not hinder the AQUIS proposal in any way. This AQUIS Resort will suck the living life out of our city and leave us with only a few crumbs to fight over. Manning and his Unity Team Council stand there, jocks and bloomers down around their ankles, all bent over, flabby cheeks pulled apart, all in unison chucking Cairns the big "brown eye. "Get rooted Cairns!"

Anonymous said...

we've been shafted mate. shafted by some bloody crooks for their pieces of silver mate. done over like a dogs vomit. sold out to the first bidder. Sold lock stock and barrel.

phabfish said...

Sad to read the views on here. Even as a struggling local business owner, who (publicly) supported the CEP and voted for Val, I was delighted to read the news of the proposed Aquis development and hope that it gets the green light - and quick.
Take a look around: thanks to the doom merchants and naysayers and the "we'll-turn-into-the-Gold-Coast" narrow minded, small-town mentality old farts that dominate the landscape around here, our beautiful, sun-kissed and under utilised city is dying on its knees. There is so little money around, so little hope and so little enthusiasm for change.
Our council, state government and, no doubt very soon, federal government, all scream austerity and balanced budgets and all of the time, the money continues to dry up in Cairns.
What part of Aquis so scares youl? The increased tourist activity or the new infrastructure or the jobs created? Or is it the environmental impact, the negative impact on our CBD or the GBR? Or is it just that this Canadian based businessman is of Chinese origin and that the wealthy tourists coming into the city will be Chinese?
I don't get it. A massive tourism development will create jobs – both in construction and operation. Those workers will have money to spend & will spend it in our city – in the CBD, the shopping centres, supermarkets & restaurants, cafes bars. The tourists themselves will bring money into Cairns. Even if the overwhelming majority of the tourist dollar stays within Aquis, money will still be spent locally; on taxis and those same restaurants, local shops & bars. Wealthy tourists from Asia would still be coming to Cairns to see the GBR & the rainforest as well as having a gamble in the casino. The Cairns Central anecdote is a furphy. New shopping centres, might spread the existing shopping dollar thinner, or change the habits of those local residents lucky enough to have some money to spend. But the Aquis development is looking to bring new tourists into the area: to attract wealthy, long-stay holidaymakers, in addition to the backpackers and the existing stopping-off-on-the-way-to-Sydney short stay tourists that the city currently gets and would continue to attract.
Environmentally, the cane fields are going. What would you rather see? A tourist development that garners world-wide attention & admiration or more suburban sprawl with the new residents waiting for another shopping centre to be built so that they can get a job to pay their mortgage? Aquis or another Masters/Bunnings/000s of big houses squeezed onto small blocks. Is it really that hard a choice to make?
In terms of the existing facilities and how they will compete, what’s the issue? I don’t think that the expectation is for the Northern Pride to start playing in an empty 25,000 seater stadium, or for The Tanks to lose those intimate musical performances. The Conference Centre may face competition, but then the new development should open Cairns up to a greater number of conference events, giving the existing centre more opportunities to try & compete.
And for us residents of Cairns, we might start to see the kinds of entertainment that we currently have to fly south for, coming here – whether that is rock concerts, theme parks, major sporting events (maybe even a national league football side), exhibitions, plays & so much more that currently bypasses Cairns. What an awful thought.
Of course we could all continue to whinge & drive exciting (overseas funded) development away, so that we can continue to live in a struggling city with pristine beaches that hardly anyone else gets to see & a CBD that nobody wants to go to and a biennial preseason visit from the Cowboys or the Suns and tribute acts and once-were-successful groups playing the social clubs, all to audiences desperate for something more relevant. At least we would be able to continue casting envious glances & uttering disgruntled twitters at how Townsville & the Gold Coast have/get everything. Wouldn’t be fair for them to be jealous of us, would it?

Anonymous said...

phabfish, look at the sheer size of this monstrosity and think of the capital outlays involved. $4 billion is one hell of a lot of dinero, and Fung would want good returns. Having such a huge operation would mean AQUIS will quickly dominate the tourist industry. Did you note the 1800 "workers accommodation" on the resort? Do you fondly believe they will be for local workers? Can you guarantee that holiday makers staying at Aquis will choose other local restaurants, tours, shopping centres etc? The reality is that they will find all sorts of Fung owned tours, shopping expeditions etc at their hotels within AQUIS.

jim-bob snr said...

phabfish, were you in Cairns in 1982/83 when the Cairns International Airport was built? You see, we have been through all this before. We had been promised by a few key men that we will all benefit untold riches and prosperity and jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs for all. If you could breathe in and out then there would be a job or two or three for you. Well, it didn't happen like that. Cairns was inundated with Southerners and our population exploded within a couple of years. Locals complained bitterly they never got the contracts, tradies didn't get much work. It all went to Southern companies who moved their workforce holas bolas up to Cairns. Rents soared, real estate went through the roof, traffic increased, the city burst at its seams for a while. However, the so called riches which were promised did not get spread around to everyone. So who can blame us for being a bit cynical this time around? Yes, I know the LNP boyos are out there chanting the usual mantra, jobs, jobs, jobs, jobs and more jobs. Jobs for all if you can breathe in air. But Fung's development has accommodation for 1800 workers onsite. Also if he has built these complexes in other places around the world, isn't it logical that he will bring in the same engineers, architects, builders etc?

Anonymous said...

Contrary to the detractors, this is a well placed and well timed development for Cairns. If you look at the Asian region and the developments that are on going, the model is strongly patterned to the successes of Macau. Asia's biggest development right now is Manila, Philippines' Entertainment City which aims to surpass the gaming revenue of Las Vegas and Macau. Qatar's Lusail City, South Korea, Thailand and Vietnam are also vying for developments of such scale.

Reputation wise, I think Cairns has an edge over the above destinations because the Chinese are elitist in nature. They see Australia as a premium destination and the view is that only the well heeled Chinese are the ones who can afford a trip there. This mentality will drum up a much stronger motivation for the aspirational Chinese consumers (who number in tens of millions) to follow the footsteps of the Chinese elites to satisfy the idea that, they too, can afford to live a certain level of lifestyle.

The advantage of Cairns over other major cities in Australia is its close proximity to Asia and the relative ease of getting in and out as well as the allure of 'the Great Barrier Reef'. The developer and the the Queensland Government has a winning formula with Aquis and this may kickstart more upscale and multi billion dollar developments in FNQ. Also, don't ignore the strong growths that Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam and Thailand are posting. With a collective population of 450million, theres another massive chunk of potential tourist market that Cairns can tap. It'll come down to how clever we position and sell Cairns to the Asian market.

I just hope that the state and federal governments have the foresight to invest more in Cairns especially around manufacturing and financial services. It'd be a great way to diversify the economy and ensure continuous growth for the region and its people.

I say, embrace the change because if we don't kickstart a development of such scale, nothing will change the current situation of the city. The only regrettable thing about this is it took a Chinese entrepreneur to see the vision and fund the investment when an Australian entrepreneur could have done a similar step and retain the entire profits within the Australian jurisdiction.

ruby said...

Anonymous, all well and good, but we want the profits of an Asian tourist boom to be spread fairly equitably around the region, not monopolised by Tony Fung. That is the biggest issue that the detractors have. Surely you can't fault that?

Anonymous said...

@Ruby You can't spread the profits equitably without seizing the opportunity first. Besides, we have 4years to discuss and strategise on how to equitably the spread the profits around the region with an open forum between governments, business/community leaders and the people of FNQ.

ruby said...

Anonymous 18.28, that is the very first time I have heard about 4 years of open forums between governments/business community leaders and the people of FNQ. Is all of this secret too?? Explain yourself.

Clinton said...

I just cannot understand how so many cairns people are questioning this project, who cares for all the apparent problems,the land was nothing more than a farming flood plane. Cairns has the highest unemployment rate in the country, our tourism is expensive old and tied not to mention run by old and tied 70,s idealists who are so far from meeting the market it is not funny.

Travel around the world and see what is on offer.... Cairns is so far behind the current offerings it is not funny, we no longer have 5 star hotels and what we do have is in need of repair. not to mention the number of empty shop fronts. The question i would pose is why would you come to Cairns ... It is nice to see a local business man has decided to contribute to our home town and yes he is a local he has been here longer than most of you, no he does not rent he owns a large number of properties and pays tax and rates. Get with the times people Tony i am sure will have planed this project to the last corner stone it will go like clock work.
I can only imagine when Aquis is built that all the complaining folk will hold themselves away from the project. Instead I bet they will be one of the first in line to visit on open day in the hope of some type of free handout and will try to bring their screeching kids along... oh by the way complainers and trailer trash don't forget your torn jeans and thongs.. get some class and run with it, just maybe you will get employed and then have no more time to wine about the finite details..time for change I say

Anonymous said...

@ruby: My point is PRIORITISATION. You can't prioritise equitable spread of the Chinese tourism boom over the approval and subsequent construction of the Aquis resort. When this landmark development passes through, only then should we start to table the equitable spread of the wealth through an open fora with key stakeholders. We'd have plenty of time to construct strategic plans and contingencies to hit our targets right. What is critical is for the project to go ahead and have everybody in FNQ to rally behind Tony Fung to kickstart the local economy and work towards a sustainable growth for the future.

To satisfy your curiosity regarding such fora, we'd need the Business Council of Queensland to engage and hopefully attract some local entrepreneurs to set up their operations or business functions in Cairns or its environs. I believe K Rudd is planning to attract investors in the Northern part of Australia by slashing the company tax rate to 20%. I think our government can enhance this by providing added robust tax incentives specifically targeted to the manufacturing sector. When the entrepreneurs arrive with their respective businesses, you’ll see a steady rise in employment in all sectors of the economy. What the government and business councils need to do is to ensure sufficient training and skills enhancement programs targeting the marginilised communities so they too can participate in the labour market and chip in to the economy of this country.
On a macro level, we will see big players enter the Cairns market to compete against Aquis. Such attention will bring other big businesses in other sectors enter the market to support what I hope to be a thriving business and local communities. The opportunity here is for the Queensland and federal governments to act collaboratively and back big ticketed developments that have sustainability at the foundation of its business operations. This will allow for Cairns to position itself as a sustainable, eco friendly city which will be a key market differentiator, particularly among the Asian consumers, beyond 2020.

As you can see, theres a lot of pieces to the puzzle and plenty of opportunities and obstacles in the pipeline, but before we can delve into the complexities of equitable spread of wealth, we need a key landmark development to pass uninhindered for the opportunities to manifest and translate into dollars, employment and growth.

sunfish said...

Excuse me but What is sustainable about a city built on tourism based on 1,000,0000,s mass visitors flying in on jet planes? Please don't tell me this ecological. Each individual journey here contributed to the destruction of the reef via global warming. If the journey had not happened the destruction would have not occurred.
Now I'm not saying that this journey should not happen. But please don't tell me it's ecological or sustainable to build an industry on this. And be aware of the gamble you are taking on behalf of your children that the reef will be around for them to continue to exploit the way their parents have.

I noted the Cairns post article whinging about penalty rates in tourist industry again this week. And how it doesn't allow us to compete with other destinations. Current momentum suggests we can see the drones working in tourist industry for some low rate. And being on call 24/7/365 for the privilege.

Someone mentioned the Chinese seeing Australia as a high class destination. How long do you think that is going to last for with unfettered mass scale access. 10 years max. How long has the reef casino's promises taken to fade.

Thats right any assets we have should be sold to employ people that moved here in the last wave of highly promoted now sad looking asset promotion/exploitation. (If only that last wave delivered some genuinely l sustainable jobs/industry like we always here is claimed at the time ideas are put up). Maybe they should also put their daughters up like the Thai's do.

Anonymous said...

Clinton, last we checked a few months ago, Cairns had an unemployment rate at 5%. Clinton, do you even read the news?
The people that question this development are not tree hugging hippies or outdated, out of touch locals.
They are the people that have read between the lines and can see the vast negative implications this would have on Cairns.
Has Tony Fung even been to Cairns? The design of this excessive monstrosity appears to deduce that he knows nothing about Cairns at all.
The ones supporting this project are the ones that think they will profit from it.
If this goes ahead, say goodbye to the things you love about Cairns. The influx of Chinese tourists and business owners will strip this town. That's their culture and etiquette in business. Ruthless and cut throat.
The Chinese tourists will be told where to go and when by Aquis. This already happens in town. When a tour is cancelled very often the Chinese tourists are told to stay in their rooms.
Centralise all these services and you are going to have a huge monopoly. I don't know about you, but I'd rather keep my soul then give away the key to what I feel is the most beautiful city in Australia.

Jamie Coutts said...

phabfish, everything you said about AQUIS is spot on. it will be an amazing new addition to Cairns and we will all be so much better off for it. I cannot believe people are complaining about this? What the hell! There are thousands of cities and towns all around the globe that would do anything to have something like this built and yet Cairns is the chosen and the best location - and for good reason. Wake up and smell the roses people. This will put us on the map, and the local economy will be changed for the better as well.

Sanremo 487881 said...

What about the "2050" huge population problem.? Cairns could be 3 million. Huge developments will occur.