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07 February 2014

MISGUIDED LABOR PRESELECTION PROCESS HAS SOME CONTEMPLATING UNELECTABLE CANDIDATE MICHAEL HEALY

There's no doubt that Cairns region voters, who generally have been progressives, began lamenting the election of Gavin "Don't Rape Me" King and his LNP partners almost immediately after Campbell Newman took office.

King in his first act of bastradry went back on his promises and shoveled over $100M in signed-off investment back into the Brisbane area for more tunnels, bridges, and Gold Coast light rail.  So sure was he of the sleaziness of this deal, he conducted it via private email accounts with Sleepy Bob.

Throwing his hat into the preselection ring is the obvious choice, Cairns Councillor Rob Pyne.  Pyne, first elected to the Kevin Byrne council, is considered by many to be the hardest working councillor in what is a very diverse and fast-growing electorate.  Pyne stays on top of the issues, and is seemingly everywhere around the traps.  Compare that to Greg Fennell (who??), a councillor who virtually no one in his Clifton/Palm Cove division has ever seen.  

ROB PYNE WITH LOCAL SUPERBANTAMWEIGHT
BOXER FRED MUNDRABY.  MUNDRABY'S BENTLEY
PARK STREETS GYM HAS GOTTEN MORE
CAIRNS YOUTHS ON TRACK THAN
A DOZEN LNP BOOT CAMPS
Local grass roots politics at its best - which is why that ALP's preselection process for Cairns seems to some bent on running off the rails.  

Pyne is being challenged by Michael Healy - a private school, Sydney North Shore blueblood transplant to Cairns.  Currently lead salesman at Quicksilver, Healy's been employed at a number of Cairns hotels during his time here.  And given the full colour mailers being sent to a small number of ALP preselectors, Mr. Healy's views (fluffed-up by socialite PR hack Pip Miller) are receiving serious scrutiny.

And when you read his published views, it's obvious he could easily be mistaken as an LNP candidate!

He mouths all the ALP dogma - against sale of Government assets, protecting environmental areas, more money for hospitals.  He attacks the Newman government and Gavin King for rising electricity prices, lack of government investment in the region, and sacking 17,000 government employees.

But despite his opening claim that the recipient of these expensive brochures would learn "more about what I stand for", we couldn't find anything but ALP boilerplate. 

The AWU, who hold a 2010 labor agreement with Quicksilver negotiated in part with Healy, has insiders who claim that in fact many of the previously hard-won conditions for these tourism workers were thrown under the bus by the business-minded Healy.  And yet Healy claims that 'It is not acceptable for the rights and conditions of workers be eroded'.  

Healy would seem to be the usual big business progressive
MICHAEL HEALY, SPORTING A GOLD WATCH
FEW VOTERS IN THE SEAT OF CAIRNS
COULD AFFORD
with little interest or track record with the people, at the grass roots, letting his actions speak for him over time.  


And as a result, this no-name ALP member is wholly inappropriate for the Seat of Cairns, in our view.  He would make a far better ALP candidate for the Federal Parliament where business connections often can make the difference.  The ALP should apply his talents at this level.

Rob Pyne on the other hand is exactly the kind of grassroots candidate that a party in "rebuilding" mode needs to win the seat and restore ALP credibility to Cairns.  Pyne's name recognition built on not just his years of council service, but his father Tom's decades of pragmatic ALP leadership are the kind of qualities that tip the balance in close elections.

Factional party politics do nothing to advance the cause of progressive leadership in the region.  The public is tired of divisive politics.  Hasn't the Cairns ALP branch learned anything from the last elections? 

We would urge local ALP preselectors to put aside this divisive factional thinking and act for the good of the whole community by supporting Rob Pyne to oppose the dysfunctional Gavin King. Voters everywhere are rejecting "insider" politics that ignores the people, and their values.  Getting a practical, well-liked progressive in place at this first occasion after electoral wipeout puts Cairns residents at the front of the pack as the ALP rebuilds in Queensland.   This is the kind of leadership that will ultimately return the ALP to an influential position in Australia politics.    


60 comments:

Pissed off said...

All very well Hillbilly, but the Labor Party is starting well back with the local media machine in Murdoch's pocket and Mackenzie now only in the role of Newman's Media Officer in Cairns. Don't shit me by saying nobody listens to Mackenzie or reads the Cairns Post either. The local yokel is highly responsive to manipulations by the media. Remember when Mackenzie issued that bogus warning about a tsunami on its way to Cairns? The main arterial roads in and out of Cairns were jammed by panicking residents within minutes. Crowds of people choked the Kuranda range by stopping their cars alongside viewing points so they could watch the tsunami rolling into Cairns. Hysteria was everywhere with the simpletons revealing they didn't have the ability to double check the facts. They just sucked up, as Bob R. pointed out, whatever Mackenzie said like a bottle of piss. Cairns residents believe instantly and without question whatever Mackenzie says. This is what the ALP is now up against. Cairns people got what they deserved in Gavin King.

Bob R. said...

Bwah hahahah, yeah I remember all the fucktards shitting themselves and jamming Mulgrave Road. I went and had a gander at them sitting there in their cars showing all the whites of their eyes, jaws open to their chest bellowing and screaming. Yeah there are a lot of fucktards of Cairns who believe whatever Mackenzie says. They'll all vote for who Mackenzie says to vote for. But I reckon there are even more Cairnsites who don't listen to the old lying blow hard. I reckon Pyney is the way to go. He's not up there being patted on the head and slobbered over by rugnut or dressing up like little Lord Fauntleroy for a fashion photo. He gets out there and talks with the locals and is easy to approach. I reckon, fair dinkum, he must know about 50% of the Cairns population.

Anonymous said...

Rob has my vote and after the disgraceful treatment of staff given away to another council without the possibility of a job when they get there I am doing everything I can to make sure the mannings of this world fade into history and we have better management from what ever side of politics can give it. And for the record Mackenzie,Corby didn't say she was going to roll a big joint when she got out it came from a feral looking female "lawyer" on one of those god awefull breakfast tv programs that discuss some pop princess's latest song failure or have a sign language expert on trying to decipher abbotts latest speech.

74 said...

Hey that's not fair on poor old Greg Fennell. I saw him once! At least, he said he was him, I wouldn't have known otherwise.

I agree, Rob is the man the ALP needs in Cairns.

ruby said...

So, Mackenzie does have influence. I agree, the tsunami scare is hard core proof that a proportion of Cairns residents are highly responsive to manipulation. Forget them. I believe Rob Pyne is the way to go for Cairns. We don't want a Member of Parliament who closets himself away in a radio studio answering approved questions and callers, while being flattered and buttered up by an LNP radio host, and who is too shit scared to face the public at public meetings. Rob Pyne is OUT THERE, approachable, accessible, available. Yep, not for Rob the velvet and satins of the Melbourne metrosexual fashion world and an arrogant, preening pose on the front cover of a magazine. Rob is out there, day after day, meeting and speaking with the people who keep Cairns beating, the Council workers, the road workers, the charity workers, the nurses, the carers, the shop keepers, the teachers,the retired, the professionals. Rob is a unifying presence in Cairns, not a divisive presence, and this is what Cairns needs.

Anonymous said...

Not entirely on topic, but pretty relevant.

The latest newspaper 'readership' figures have been released by Roy Morgan. 'Readership' figures are a pretty dodgy way to talk up newspaper figures as it count everyone who flicks through a free newspaper in a coffee shop. Circulation, the actual number of copies printed is a better measure, but today we have 'readership' figures and even those show a massive collapse in support of the Cairns Post. It's Mon-Fri edition has lost almost 15% readership and the Saturday edition has lost almost 25% of its readers. How much longer before this fish n chip wrapper disappears completely??

ian hodge said...

Rob is definitely the best candidate to contest against Gavin.He comes from excellent pedigree , his father has left a long lasting legacy in his vision he shared and delivered in Cairns, Rob maintains an active social media network that one ,compliments his division and Cairns as a whole , the energy he has displayed has been relentless and driven,after all i contested against him and we no the result.

NYM said...

I agree with your opinion Hillbilly that Healy is a better option as a Federal Candidate and Pyne the better State Candidate.
Pyne will be a unifying force for Cairns after the toxic divisiveness which has characterised Cairns these past few years.

Anonymous said...

There was toxic divisiveness long before King won Cairns. Don't be fooled sheeple, no matter who is selected for the ALP they will be no more than a puppet to the SE Masters.

Believe any different and you are a fool.

Anonymous said...

Give us break HBW! Pyne doesn't know if he is Arthur or Marther. Healy at least has been a Labor Party member for many for years. Pyne has publicly condemned the ALP several times, withdrew from Val Schier's Cairns 1st team because it was too Labor and campaigned against Labor MP Curtis Pitt. He has made his mark by being anti Labor. That he now joins the party in the last couple of years says he's the "transplant" parachute candidate not Healy. I'd rather have a candidate who at least stands by the party he seeks to represent. Pyne is for Pyne and only stands for Pyne. You're off the mark on this one HBW.

Frank said...

It wasn't only John MacKenzie who alerted listeners to the tsunami possibility. It was broadcast on ABC local radio and, I dare say, all other radio stations.

Anonymous said...

It's a sad, sad day for democracy when this is the calibre of candidates we have to choose from.

Anonymous said...

anonymous 16.25 ie. steve you are so full of lnp crap watch this space you and your dictator are gone make no mistake about that.

Observer said...

A puppet for the SE Masters? Really, Anonymous 15.51. Let's see, when the ALP represented Cairns, we got:-

*re-development of Cairns Esplanade, & clean-up of Northern Beaches
*huge re-development of Cairns Base Hospital
*Liz Plummer radiotherapy facilities Cairns Base Hospital
*William McCormack House
*new Court House
*new Police Station
*North Cairns Medical Centre
*James Cook Dental School
*Upgrade Southern Approaches Bruce Highway
*Massive extensions to Cairns College of TAFE
*Periodic school extensions such as new halls, libraries
*funding for Entertainment Precinct of over $100 million
All up a few billion dollars worth from Desley Boyle's representation.
Now, what did Gavin King ever achieve? Hey?
In fact what is the only major government building currently planned for Queensland? NEWMANS TAJ MAHAL PARLIAMENTARY BUILDING IN BRSIBANE, that's what.
So don't come telling lies. Cairns was far better off with a Labor Member.

Prof. said...

Anonymous 16.25, continuous membership of the ALP doesn't count for anything in reality. John Curtin, the wartime leader was expelled from the Victorian State ALP and moved over to WA where he re-joined some time later, nominated for and won a Federal seat. Curtin is regarded by both historians and economists as the best Australian Prime Minister.

Mary H. said...

Pyne has earned people's respect by getting out there and working hard. For a man in a wheelchair, he has had to go the hard miles. His energy and accessibility in the community shows up the other Cairns Regional Councillors, all of whom have two legs and good health, in a very poor light. Rob has shamed them all and no amount of puffery and slobbery by John Mackenzie can excuse their bone idleness and poor performances. They are a disgraceful lot of bludgers and free-loaders. Rob will make an excellent representative for Cairns.

jim cavill said...

the fact the Rob as bagged ALP when he they are F wits is the very reason he needs to be the candidate, it prove he does not up with internal bullshit game playing.

ruby said...

Oh well said, Mary H. Well said indeed! I couldn't have put it better myself. I also agree with Jim Cavill above too. The fact that Rob has disagreed with the Labor Party at times, is also in his favour. We need a member who is prepared to speak up for what is right, not just follow what the party says.

Anonymous said...

Observer....that is a comprehensive list that covers 20 YEARS of ALP domination and local representation. How about we see wait and see what the LNP deliver over the same period and then make a comparison?

For the record, I think Rob Pyne is a great advocate for Cairns but I find it disturbing that obviously within the ALP ranks there is once again a division about candidates. How about we let the candidates speak for themselves? Or is that what this HBW blog actually is?

Observer said...

Anonymous 09.37, I made the list in response to some moron's claim that the ALP would be a puppet to the SE masters. The fact is Cairns and the Far North did very well with Labor representation. As a local growing up when Joh Bjelke Petersen ruled, I remember all too well what the state of our roads were like. One badly pot holed high shouldered single lane going up to Kuranda. The Palmerston Highway was a nightmare. Our schools were still the old wooden structures painted yellow and red with many cheap demountables which all became permanent fixtures. When Labor won office in 1983, it was Christmas time for us here.
The list of things achieved by Labor is not complete by any means and most were not achieved over a 20 years period but within the tenure of Desley Boyle. Boyle was continuously bagged by King on his newspaper column for "not doing anything for Cairns." The fact is Boyle was the most effective State Member we have ever had in terms of achieving infrastructure and funding for Cairns.

KitchenSlut said...

King v Pyne? What a nightmare!

Anonymous said...

For me it is as simple as A.B.K .... Anyone But King!

Anonymous said...

It appears that Pyne is a good divisional councillor. It also appears that Healy has a high level of business acumen.

Given the very little investment the city of Cairns will reap from the city council and the current Cairns member, a candidate with a high level of business acumen appears better placed to generate opportunity and investment for the people of Cairns.

TAS said...

Rob Pyne as the endorsed ALP candidate for Cairns.
It's a no-brainer really. The only down-side is that we lose him as a voice for reason in Council.

KitchenSlut said...

King v Pyne? What a sad choice for Cairns!

Anonymous said...

I'd like to see Healey as Mayor. He'd do a damn site bettere job than the current one.

As a swinging voter who lives in Rob's division, I have seen first hand what he has been able to achieve for me and my family. He has my vote.

Liz said...

Healy would make a brilliant Federal Candidate, so if he loses the State pre-selection I hope he throws his hat into the fray at the next Federal Election. What a contrast with Entsch he would make! Cairns has been badly polarised by the toxic influences of Mackenzie and King who worked in tandem to exert the worst divisive tactics on the people of Cairns ever. King used his position in The Cairns Post to set about with "divide and conquer" almost the moment he arrived in Cairns. Pyne is a cohesive, unifying force for Cairns. We need this cohesion and unity. We need Pyne.

Liz said...

Healy would make a brilliant Federal Candidate, so if he loses the State pre-selection I hope he throws his hat into the fray at the next Federal Election. What a contrast with Entsch he would make! Cairns has been badly polarised by the toxic influences of Mackenzie and King who worked in tandem to exert the worst divisive tactics on the people of Cairns ever. King used his position in The Cairns Post to set about with "divide and conquer" almost the moment he arrived in Cairns. Pyne is a cohesive, unifying force for Cairns. We need this cohesion and unity. We need Pyne.

Alison Alloway said...

I would just like to endorse the comment made by Mary H above, rather than comment on the coming pre-selection between Pyne and Healy. As one who has watched local government for many decades, this is the very first council where I have never ever seen the Mayor nor most of his Councillors at any community or social gathering or even just wandering through the streets. I remember them all. From the avuncular Dave de Jarlais, the courteous and attentive Ron Davis, the sports mad but likeable Kev Crathern, the highly articulate and gentle Keith Goodwin, the very kindly John Cleland, the hearty Tom Pyne, the brash but highly visible Kev Byrne to the accessible and gracious Val Schier. I have never met Manning, nor even seen hide or hair of him anywhere since he was elected!! Then onto the Councillors. Over the decades, I would have met most of them or knew them to look at. I can picture them as their names roll past - Wright, Friend, Barlow, Strike, Hartmann, Blank, Gill, Burgess - all visible and accessible to the community. Even the Mulgrave Shire Councillors - Marsh, Parisi, Harwood. So many, a passing parade of people whose names and faces I still remember because they were out there, they mixed with the community. You got to know them, even if it was to just nod your head as they passed. I recall Bob Burgess with his loud shirts gate crashing a few parties in our Division and standing inside the Westcourt Shopping Centre each Saturday with "Gidday, I'm Bob Burgess!" Everyone knew who Bob was. The late Rose Blank stood inside Stockland Shopping Centre, wearing a huge rosette, "Hello! I'm Rose Blank!" So she became very well known and at her first attempt at a Council Election, beat the well known and popular Dr Digby Hoyal. So, where the hell are our current so called councillors? Yes, I do see Richie Bates, my own Divisional Councillor and found him easy to contact. On my one and only trip to Mossman last year, running a stall at the Mossman Quilt Show, Julia Leu came up to my stall and had a few friendly words. Next onto Rob Pyne. I see Rob almost everywhere! At community functions, down the street, at social gatherings. My few contacts with him have brought timely responses. So, what about the other Councillors? Schilling, Richardson, Fennell etc? Where the bloody hell are they? Are they real people, or are they bogus personalities? Are they chronically ill and unable to circulate amongst the people who elected them? It is a fair commentary on their invisibility and dereliction of duty that most people in Cairns cannot name their own divisional Councillor. As the song goes, "Money for nothing....". Let's not forget, they receive huge salaries.
Yes, Mary H. Rob Pyne has shamed them hugely.

Anonymous said...

Yet again, well said Alison. As to where the bloody hell are they? No doubt hiding and hanging their heads in shame, shame, shame. As well they should after screwing the people of Cairns and surrounding districts out of over $100 million...ex-pat

Anonymous said...

A very sharp and incisive commentary, as per usual Alison. Our previous Councillors and Mayors all had to work for their reputations and chances at re-election. Like good old Bob Burgess, they had to sing for their supper. Rob has distinguished himself by following their example of community interaction.

KitchenSlut said...

Rob Pyne for Cairns? Give me a break Hillbilly! In my own circumstance he has responded poorly, even to an issue he raised himself online where a considered response was given. The intellectual depth of a petri dish.

I wont even begin to go into where he has subsequently made online totally false allegations about my family connections.

I don't question he works hard. I seriously question he is a suitable candidate!

Anonymous said...

So Mark B Understandably King is our village Idiot but you obviously also have a problem with Rob P. Care to share?

Seth at Port said...

A good analysis there, Alison Alloway and one which backs up the view of Hillbilly Watch. For years Ive listened to aspiring ALP candidates talk loftily about their grassroots campaigning, which seems to be limited to getting a team of door knockers together during the election campaign itself. That isn't grassroots campaigning, that is door to door selling. Cathy McGowan showed everyone what real grassroots campaigning was when she won the seat of Indi from the heavily funded and media backed Sophie Mirabella. McGowan said she had been working with the community in small groups for well over a year before the election and introduced herself and spoken with as many people in the seat as she could. THAT is a real exercise in connecting solidly with the grass roots. It takes time and real dedication in getting to know the voters, earning their respect and understanding what their issues are. The ALP can no longer rely on a media campaign or a savvy PR. The LNP have the mainstream media all sewn up as well as Australia wide propagandists like Andrew Bolt. When you cannot even get one ALP person on the John Mackenzie radio show, but every day listen to LNP politicians, the facts are that the media style of campaigning is passé for the ALP. You have to physically go out amongst the people, get to really know them and work hard. Hillbilly Watch is right. If the ALP want to rebuild or fade away into the night leaving Australia like the USA with two right wing political parties and a tanking economy, it needs to put "practical well-liked progressives" like Rob Pyne who has worked damned hard to earn community respect, in place.

Anonymous said...

Sorry to burst the bubble of every HBW commenter here but King will win re-election. Pyne or Healy would both be good candidates and will give King a scare but Labor will only be a serious chance in Cairns in 2018. I don't like it as much as the next HBW reader, but that's the harsh reality of the political circumstances we are in.

Anonymous said...

I dream of the day, when ever that is, when we have an opposition party in this once wonderful state. This predicament that we are in where ever piece of leglislation brought to the house is just rubber stamped is an appalling way to govern the state.Yes I know it is our fault we put them there but it is a nice dream to hang onto. LNP will obviously win the next election but loose a lot of seats and give more argument on the floor of the house to outrageous laws presently being stamped and filed.

TAS said...

Anonymous 21:32: Why? Did he win two terms at the last poll? King is an ineffective poseur with no idea even of his role … unless it's to turn up on local news bulletins to claim credit for things he hasn't even been responsible for. We all see that for what it is. He's a one-termer.

A nonny mouse said...

Agreed Anonymous 07.14 there before me. Good government demands a solid opposition. Newman is able to get away with mass sackings and dictatorial legislation which strips away basic rights for example because there is no political opposition and the Murdoch media machine are no longer enacting the role of government critic or watchdog. Instead they are there as overt supporters of the LNP. We are all further disadvantaged because Newman has so many seats with his huge majority that he just doesn't give a shit if an electorate receives any funding or not. He knows he can afford to lose up to 30 seats at the next election and still have government. A huge majority weakens the bargaining power of members such as Gavin King, Michael Trout, David Kempton which is why our region has received fuck all from the Newman government.

Hamish Krint said...

I would have thought Pyne should stick to what he knows REALLY well and follow in his father's footsteps - become an apolitical Mayor. It's a shame that someone with so much enthusiasm and commitment has 'taken sides'. There's enough work out there to rebuild our community and to still be 'independent'. Why does it always have to be party political, especially in local government?

Bob R. said...

Yeah well frankly nobody could deny that people will vote even for a donkey if there is a high powered media campaign which sells a candidate like the best fucken beer in the world and you just got to fucken have some or die a horrible death. Ive been reading about this Scott Driscoll who was the member for Redcliffe and who was booted out of the LNP for crooked business dealings. The voters knew about him last election but raced down and gave him a 15% swing. Fuck me dead. So when the shit hit the fan and it was all known in parliament, Driscoll went off sick and never attended parliament or his electorate office. So the dickhead electors of Redcliffe got what they voted for. A crook who couldn't even be bothered doing his job. Im of the opinion the voters of Redcliffe will vote for a pile of worm riddled cats vomit if the media says so. You just got to write some seats off and thats how it is mate.

I Laugh said...

Firstly-well said Alison. Secondly-Yes Pyne is seen out and about however there is nothing worse than a populist politician and that exactly describes Pyne. You might as well call him Councillor NO or Mr Gray or even "splinters" for sitting on the fence all of the time.. He votes against nearly all developments because he is scared that someone might make some money. In the next election it doesn't matter who you support-if we have an LNP Gov then we need an LNP member otherwise we will get nothing at all and swatted aside. Same goes for ALP members in an ALP Gov. I know this is meant to be an ALP love in site for poor old Pyney but the guy is a joke and really doesn't understand how the local econopmy works.

Anonymous said...

Irony of the day. It was the unions that brought to attention to the media the present corruption of it's upper management and asked for the authorities to investigate which led to this Royal Commission. If you want to see what happens when they had a Royal Commission into unions in the past have a read of the Costigan Royal Commission, circa 1980's. Painters and Dockers. In the end when it uncovered mass tax evasion and bottom of the harbour tax havens on foreign soils by companies in Australia one Malcome Turnbull tried to have the commission shut down as it had strayed from it's terms of reference and had embarrassed the Liberal Government and it's friends.

Concerned Labor member said...

'Michael Healy - Cairns' facebook profile posted this approx 11am today. He don't like no critisism - have a read: "I see Hillbilly Watch is giving Michael Healy - Cairns some stick. The same old bitter & twisted commentators are on there, one even suggesting we are f&%#tards for responding to Tsunami warning & it shows how the media manipulates us. What a dead set tool! Labor needs some candidates with real world business experience rather than professional pollies who would not know the real world if it bit them on the arse. Rob Pyne represents more of the same Labor bullshit that got us an unbelievable LNP majority. If Labor wants to keep the Tarago as a money saving measure, they should pre-select Pyne & his ilk. It is people like Michael Healy who may bring them out of the wilderness..."

Thanks to Michael Healy for showing me his real character. Hillbilly Watch is too much heat - and he wants my vote to send him into the kitchen?

Alison Alloway said...

You made me laugh there, "I laugh." Ministers and Members of Parliament swear an Oath on taking office to administer their duties "Without fear of favour". So there you are broadcasting and supporting that the LNP is a corrupt government and only giving "favours" to LNP electorates? Sure, people like yourself might support that type of political corruption and bastardry, but most thinking people do not. It is essentially undemocratic. Next, what funding for infrastructure has Cairns received since King won office? The facts are he has achieved precious little. In fact he has been the least successful in gaining government funding of all State Members for Cairns. How arrogant and impertinent of you to state that Pyne doesn't understand how the local economy works. He would have a damned good idea from his years as a local Councillor, his university studies and his vast network of contacts. Far more than the current State member who doesn't seem to even understand what his duty statement is.

Anonymous said...


I Laugh.

Well seems the concept of "populism" is over your head but a hint, it is not to be confused with popularity.

Pyne approved the CEP, the best development we have been offered. Was not popular.

What we need is perhaps smarter voters?

Anonymous said...

The only apolitical Mayor we have had was Keith Goodwin, the one killed in the Mt Emerald plane crash. Both Kev Byrne and Bob Manning have stood for the LNP in elections.

Ginger TheRedHeeler said...

Anonymous 19:22, we definitely need smarter votes however, as education standards are decreasing, I think that we are unlikely to get them. In the meantime, I'm happy to put up with hardworking and community driven politicians. As several commenters have said, Pyne is definitely one of these. I would add, although irrelevant to the topic, that so are Cooper, Richardson and Bates. The others: never seen them.

Dean J said...

Healy represents all that is wrong with the current ALP. Doesn't seem to stand for anything except getting himself elected.

I'd be more inclined to vote for Pyne if he ran as an independant. HOnestly, the state ALP is run out of Brisbane, just like the LNP. The only hope is for FNQ to have their own independants fighting for the needs of FNQ.

ruby said...

Dean J, if you read Observer's comments at the top, FNQ has done very well with Labor representation. This whinge that we get nuthin' is nothing but a whinge. During the terms of Keith deLacy, Warren Pitt and Desley Boyle we had billions of dollars pumped into Far North Queensland. It just defies logic and all reason when people parrot this idiotic notion that the North is always forgotten.

City Dweller said...

Cairns Labor is lucky to have two strong candidates vying for pre-slection,I would like Pyne to keep the Manning LNP supported council accountable.City Dweller.

NYM said...

The ALP have two very strong candidates vying for pre-selection. This can only be good. May the best man win.

Anonymous said...

The pre-selection battle between Healy and Pyne for the right to be the ALP candidate for Cairns is to be played out amongst ALP members in the Cairns electorate which means only a very, very small number of contributors to this page will have a say.
As usual, there will be a lot of people trying to influence the outcome so that their particular point of view will (hopefully) end up being the majority view of elected members across the state and therefore have more influence within the ALP.
It is unfortunate that this is the case, as the process should be about selecting the best person for the job - one who can win Cairns back for Labor. When it comes to actually doing the very job as a member of parliament, Labor needs someone who believes in fairness, equity and social justice, has above average business experience and intelligence, one who has the ability to advocate and negotiate on behalf of all the people of Cairns - including those who cannot help themselves – the neediest in our community. In particular, we need someone who is loyal to his party and the decisions made by that party.
Whilst Robert Pyne certainly has some of these qualities, he fails dismally on some – in particular loyalty.
The fact that Pyne actively campaigned against a sitting Labor member and his remarks about not being constrained and restricted by any sort of solidarity with the party who could ultimately support him, should be enough to open the eyes of all who may consider voting at a pre selection level.
To top it off, he then abused the trust that ALP members may have had in him by openly stated that Labor was dead to him.
Like it or not, ANY politician who runs on behalf of any political party DOES have to be constrained in some way and must comply with party policy. I my view, the fact that Pyne would not comply would make him extremely unreliable and somewhat of a loose cannon. If he wants to be an independent and say whatever he likes – let him stay in council. Cairns is too important to be handed over to someone who only has his own interests at heart.

Anonymous said...


Business sense is not a skill that is required to be a good politician. Politics is not business. It also means that ALP are still way out of touch in Cairns because pretty much everyone is so sick of politics only being about business, the tourism industry at that. Also Rudd was the one that was far from loyal and attacked the party and was made leader so a bit much to attack Rob when the whole party has been disloyal to its values.

Bob R. said...

Yeah your right there Anonymous 13.04. The selection of an ALP candidate for Cairns remains with the members of the Labor party here in Cairns. Im not a member hey. I did join once but Christ or mighty when you work all day and then have to sit through some boreing bloody meeting it gets a bit too much. Id rather be at home falling off in front of the TV specially after a big feed. I know Liz who posts in here isn't a member of any party either and anyway she doesnt stick to one party. Old Jethro who uses a different nick these days used to be but I dont reckon he is these days because he can't get around much any more. Seth at Port is a bloody greens supporter as if nobody hadn't guessed.

Anonymous said...

Nobody could ever say the LNP haven't been disloyal to their values. Selling everything off, privatising everything else, and ripping the guts out of the welfare net as well as turfing tens of thousands of Aussies out of jobs.

Bazza said...

Now we have tabulo doing his best to put Rob Pyne down, tabulo is a left over from byrnes council, says it all, he is only a ceo and manning should bring him into line, now that would be a miracle.
We are already witnessing what a mess so called business people can do in parliament, no thanks. Somebody who is out there in the community is the only way for this country to get ahead.

Anonymous said...

Wouldn't give you two bob for either of them, bring back desley! And that comes from a non labor voter!

Anonymous said...

Agree with anon.13.2.04 must be loyal to party 100%. run as independent otherwise.

Anonymous said...

I attended a funeral recently for a CRC employee who was sold to Douglas Shire for pieces of silver with no job when he got there. Three weeks later he was diagnosed with terminal cancer and survived just 11 days. Tabulo who sent him to Douglas had the nerve to turn up to his funeral, probably to make sure he was dead I hate to say. R.I.P brother and some of you may know who he was and what ever people think of council workers no one, not lib, nationals, green ,labour or the raving left looney party should have been subject to what manning and tabulo did.We can only hope Karama is alive and well.

Anonymous said...

Sadly Pyne is all smiles on outside but sleazy nasty piece of work on the inside. Don't trust the fellow. Surely we can find an honest statesman from somewhere to represent this struggling city.And as for terry James. please nooooooooooooooooo