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15 June 2014

FNQ POLLIE BULLSHIT FINALLY DEBUNKED BY HONEST NAVY ADMIRAL

The Australian Navy, tired of the periodic political football around the HMAS Cairns, has finally slammed the door on the absurd local idea that larger navy ships will be based in Cairns "soon".  More like "never". 


"For a large ship to be based inside the cyclone belt is highly problematic. All ships have to undergo maintenance and you cannot spend over six months of the year not having maintenance. If you have got a ship that is in maintenance that cannot move within its normal notice for sea; so, if it is at extended notice for sea it might be a week, or it might be two weeks before it could be put back together and moved. You clearly do not have that warning in somewhere like Townsville or Cairns.
Now, what do we do with the smaller ships in Cairns? We put them up on the river. Some ships can go and beach up onto the river bank, and that is what our cyclone strategy is. Wherever possible we get them to sea. Others can go up onto the hard stand and be strapped down for the duration of the cyclone. You cannot do that with a 16,000 tonne ship like Choules and you cannot do it with a 27,000 tonne ship like the LHD. I think the whole discussion around basing the LHD and Choules in Townsville or Cairns has some really serious flaws just based on that. 

You then have the industrial support base issue, which you currently do not have for a number of the technologies in those ships, particularly the electric propulsion plant, the command and control and communication systems. That is another factor."


Previously, Admiral Griggs had squashed any connection to the possible dredging of the Cairns Trinity Inlet.  In October of 2012, when asked about the navy's need to have the Cairns inlet dredged, Griggs pointedly said that . . ."from a defence point of view it is less about depth and dredging and more about available wharf space".  And Griggs wasn't just talking about physical space, but in fact all the services that might be needed to maintain these increasingly technological ships.

It's just too dangerous for the navy to base significant assets in Cairns with the threat of cyclones and the lack of any electronic or IT skills in the Cairns population.  


Sadly, it won't stop the dickhead politicians from running sticking this dead idea before the increasingly ignorant electorate in Cairns at every stinking election.


8 comments:

Anonymous said...

So let me get this straight. No navies anywhere in the world base ships in the cyclone belt? Ummmm no that is not right is it? More bullshit. Not sure who spins more, Gavin or HBW?

Anonymous said...

HBW is not saying that. Navy is saying when alternatives are available that are more resource and space efficient then why would they bother. Sure some countries might have their whole coast line in a cyclone region. We however do not. HBW is saying it's a stupid idea, being pushed forwards by an idiot purely to push his rating.

Anonymous said...

Well there won't be any jobs or skills in Cairns if the knockers keep finding reasons not to do anything. And there are countries without their whole coastline in a cyclone belt that still base ships in the belt.

Anonymous said...

Well there won't be any jobs or skills in Cairns if the knockers keep finding reasons not to do anything. And there are countries without their whole coastline in a cyclone belt that still base ships in the belt.

Anonymous said...

Some examples please anonymous 07:07?

Anonymous said...

Of course Navy will not expand in Cairns, and if the Far North was to become a significant base, Townsville is a much better fit for the region anyway. But our dickhead leaders have to throw us bones of hope, usually the same old collection of bones we've chewed on before.

Seth said...

Doesn't it have a lot to do with the need for dredging the Cairns Inlet, and whether or not we have the technical back up to service Naval Ships? it isn't just only about being in the cyclone belt, as HBW has pointed out.

Anonymous said...

When I left the navy after 26 years in the mid 90's there was a realistic plan, based on the fact that boat people, illegal fishing and basic defence is all on the top end of this country, to downgrade HMAS Cairns, put in a fuel bowser for visiting ships and move everything to Darwin where it should be. I have no idea what the plan is today but a major combat vessel will never be based here because one mined channel with limited resources to clear it and the ship is doomed to be not used. That is the reality of Cairns. A narrow channel, dredged or not will always limit ship movements and suitability. It is time Cairns realized that it is a tourist town and always will be. Let proper cities like Townsville with it's expanding military infrastructure and civil development cater to defence support.the end