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11 February 2016

"WHERE THE RAINFOREST MEETS THE BREWERY" - CAIRNS LIQUOR INDUSTRY FIGHTS TO INCAPACITATE AS MANY TOURISTS AND LOCALS AS POSSIBLE

Yesterday saw Jerrod Bleijie, former Newman government poodle, in Cairns for the first time after the havoc he caused during his short unsuccessful term as Queensland Attorney General.



The Bleijie-constructed Townsville/Cairns Boot Camp (a pet project of disgraced Cairns MP's Gavin King and Michael Trout) cost EIGHT TIMES the original cost and did NOTHING to stop youth criminal recidivism. After attending this LNP "teen resort" at a cost of over $2300 per day (each!), they went on to reoffend just like as if they had been in jail.  

You can't make this shit up.

Cueball MacKenzie heaped praise on this "common sense" plan by King and Trout.  Shows again why "common sense" is often just common bullshit.  

It was stunning to see Bleijie arm-in-arm with a handful of bar owners who've been using their media muscle to mislead and misdirect the public about the proposed changes in liquor service laws.

Opposition to the ALP proposed changes comes down to one simple statement from the LNP:  "If you want to be an international tourist destination, you don't want to send signals that you're not selling liquor to all comers 24/7".

It's a furphy of enormous magnitude.

The opposition to this plan for winding-back the overly permissive liquor sales across Queensland presupposes that backpackers are somehow picking destinations based on "easy liquor availability".  This dog doesn't hunt.  It's nonsense.

We know why people pick Cairns as a destination.  It's not where the Rainforest meets the Brewery.  It's an absurd commentary on the ignorance and self-serving wallets of the so-called "Cairns City Liquor Safety Accord".  An organisation that's works so well, we can see the evidence around the city with dozens of n'eer do wells consuming their Liquor Safety Accord Drink of choice from paper bags along most streets in the CBD.  Every bloody day.  Good job, mates!

These are the same publicans that pushed the laws demanding the aboriginal communities in Cape York become alcohol free "to stop the violence".  And then when residents showed up in Cairns and elsewhere looking for their grog,  these publicans helpfully adjusted their bottle shop sales hours to ensure they could get the financial advantage over these alcoholics.  

Letting business interests drive social policy in Cairns or anywhere else is the road to hell. 

John MacKenzie regularly rails on the "drunken itinerants", and at the same time defends the Cairns liquor industry.  Where is the logic disconnect in this position?  No one is saying we should end liquor sales everywhere, that would be patently absurd.  But no one said we have to sell liquor to 5AM, either.  What's good for the (Cape) goose is good for the (city) gander. 

Secondly, the proposed 2AM end to drinks conforms with best practice from around the world.  We've previously discussed this issue here.

Thirdly, the fastest-growing tourism group coming to Cairns, the Chinese, are for all their tourism faults no particularly fond of the pub scene.  Most bars in Cairns rarely see a Chinese tourist in their establishments.  Some say the Chinese are too busy gambling.  But at least they're not barfing all over taxis at 4 or 5AM.  That's for sure.

The facts are clear that we Australians drink too damn much.  It creates a whole range of social issues - domestic violence, killed innocents on our highways, family breakups, job losses, suicides. . .do we need to go on?  New South Wales faced the same choices and has discovered not only a huge reduction in city violence fueled by too much grog, but a reduction in most social crimes. 

And as Gavin King has previously pointed out, a woman
who's had a few drinks shouldn't be surprised when she gets raped.  After all she's part of the problem!  Changes to the liquor service hours will protect many a woman in Cairns from the "King Effect".  

This is in fact a gutsy and well-reasoned first step to be taken by the Palaszczuk Government in Queensland.  It has zero chance of driving tourists away from Cairns or indeed Australia.  

Cairns MP Rob Pyne is weakly calling for Cairns to be considered as a "special case".  His position is an unfortunate by-product of the political process where he's afraid this issue is going to be used against him at the next election by the cashed-up liquor interests.  Pyne has said "he's not about to toe the line" and has Cairns' interests in mind.  

Weak, Rob, weak.  Man up, sweetie.  We've got your back.  Plenty of other issues that you take a contrarian view on, in support of your constituents   This one isn't it.

As for Billy Gordon - Go have a pint and put your dick away. 


38 comments:

portmultimedia said...

Agreed! I think a good policy would be no shots after 1 am and a shut down of clubs at 4 am. It is only after 4 am that we see the real antics.

Ken svay said...

In my experience backpackers are tight arses and spend as little as possible. Could we see some figures on the average spend on alchohol per day by backpackers versus ordinary tourists?
I spend most of my time in Phnom Penh which is a renowned party town and bars close at 2am. Bangkok is similar although at times closing is at midnight.Why do we want a few people drinking all night just to make some bar owners wealthier?

Anonymous said...


Agree. If you google "millennials nightclubs" you soon see it as a dying trend anyway. With nightclubs last century we should be moving on to what people actually want these days. We are stuck in the past.

Also agree we Rob, if you are going to divide the party find a better reason to do it.

TAS said...

Spot on HBW

Anonymous said...

If McKenzie and his redneck audience are against it, it is bound to be a good idea. That mob will oppose and ridicule any progressive, sensible ideas like new hospitals, a CEP, a ukeleke festival ,a NBN, carbon emisdion reduction and on it goes. But they will enthusiastically embrace every hare brained scheme like Aquis, building an inadequate, unfubded theatre and dredging the Inlet.

Anonymous said...

How can you be so ignorant. Hillbilly, you're doing your name proud. We need nightlife, jobs, vibrancy, tourism and equal opportunities for shift workers. The statistics don't lie. Most alcohol related violence and incidents take place at home, and the majority of alcohol related hospital presentations originate from domestic situations.

Anonymous said...


The claims it will hurt the economy are baseless. Especially from council. Whenever council approve a new shopping centre they take business from the CBD but not from the economy. This is the same. It will change where some people will spend money but does not make that money dissappear. To suggest people travel round the world to get drunk at 4.00am in Cairns is a total lie. The City may die down a bit at first but people will still spend that money and generate jobs elsewhere. HBW is correct as not only Chinese but probably 90% tourist are more put off by a bogan party scene. It will improve a little the chances of Nova 8 one day getting built as they want low crime when purchasing and research will show them that is the highest crime rate area in the city. So it may be more a positive impact on the economy.

Anonymous said...

What really hurts the economy are the pokie rooms in every pub and club, sucking millions out of peopke's wallets. Hardly a month goes by without someone being done for ripping off their employer for hundreds of thousands of dollars to feed their gambling habit.

During my going out days, there weren't too many people around after 3 am, not even at Johno's Blues Bar. If you really want to kick on, there is always the casino...

Anonymous said...

Oh ffs HBW you have NO IDEA. Get a life.

Mickwow said...

I really don't see how stopping a few hard drinkers from having a few more hours of drinking will signal the end of tourism in the region.Drinking backpackers will find somewhere to drink and party and older tourists(the people with the money) will appreciate not getting woken up as pissed people fall out of night clubs to sing,fight,piss everywhere and generally fuck up!
It is quite ridiculous and selfish for these venue operators to want to squeeze every cent they can and fuck the citizens.These operators will be back selling cars or real estate when the venue is no longer popular.As for Mckenzies old,sad flat earthers who seem to have their panties in abunch more than anyone else,this is an embarrasement to you just like getting beaten in the election,just like the loss on the harbour dredging bullshit and the no rectangular rugby league field,the empty tennis courts,etc etc etc .......

Anonymous said...

I'm an estate agent in the city - you've all seen my ads and know my long reputation in this community.

We've been told for years (going back to the Byrne council) that we need to have more residential development in the CBD. Byrne approved several highrise towers on Grafton, Aplin, Sheridan, and other areas. And this includes Harbour Lights.

These units are almost impossible to resell for the owners. The first complaint of course is the shitty construction and poor design. However the second observation is always "why would I live in a place where opening your windows and doors to enjoy the ocean breeze means you hear doof-doof music until 5AM?"

Council now is supporting the long hours and opposing the lockout laws. You can't have long liquor hours and residential development mates. Figure it out.

Anonymous said...


Anon 6:00
This is it. We have demands from the Mayor that we use taxpayer funds to drive growth when he fails town planning 101. it is just trying to get us to pay for his next term. Real estate buyers need liveability. It is not just insurance issues but lifestyle.

I had a great night out a while back. An hour pre dinner drinks in the courthouse hotel, followed by dinner theatre when it was in the Hilton, then a walk after the show along the pier area and a cocktail to finish the night off.

To go to the performing arts centre we will drive there then get in our car after the show drive straight home as we do now and have a night-time cocktail on the deck. Cashed up adults consigned to the edges of town. Too far in hot weather, and too risky, to walk from town. Not even a coffee shop for refreshments. While the drunks get the prime real estate. If we want more residential development it has to have that connectivity that city living people want. It has to scream lifestyle. If I bought in town the area I would consider is very tiny. How all councillors can support such a bad decision is alarming, it is so obviously bad but then oppose lock outs when they do not go far enough. Then blame other levels of government for their own incompetence.

Anonymous said...

Anon 13/2/16 10:58

The Civic Theatre (now CPAC) hasn't moved.
It is still where it is.
No one ever complained about it's location.
It was there for 41 years.

Anonymous said...


ALP drop in the polls is due to Rob Pyne opposing lock out laws. According to Gary Morgan of Ray Morgan. People want the lock out laws.

http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/13/poll-queensland-premier-annastacia-palaszczuks-popularity-plummets

Ken svay said...

The Cairns Post and their mates in the RE industry regularly run the same story about all the residential towers coming to Cairns. It's all a lie. I have never seen a town without a tower crane before! Some developer built that prototype apartment in Spence St months ago but it hasn't even opened! Could the Cairns Post tell us why?
I would suggest no buyers!
Cairns has to differentiate itself from other competing cities, going green would be a good idea. Read about Portland Oregon, one of the most successful small cities in the world. I bet their mayor is not 70 years old and their local paper staffed by morons.

Anonymous said...

Anon 16:35

In my experience location has long been accepted as wrong, Byrne council purchased land next to the convention centre where they had planned to build a replacement. The waterfront was not even an issue at first, the cost was. After they scaled it back to affordable levels then the land became an issue because they just opposed anything and everything. They also opposed the southern highway back then yet now the same mob are demanding the next stage get done in a hurry. Entsch opposed the ports bill without understanding his government wrote it. That is why Cairns is loser place. Every side of politics has admitted Civic theatre is in the wrong place but it is never about getting it right in Cairns, it about who wants power and what they will do to get it. Screw the people.

Anonymous said...


The location next to the convention centre was decided and agreed to. Entsch wanted where port offices are, Byrne wanted it the other side of the convention centre and Val across the road. Manning promised that same block as well. So that area was decided on. Byrne was going to spend 90 mil building a new centre but ratepayers were only going to pay 50 mil for the CEP. So they then went to operating costs as the issue but they could have borrowed another 20-39mil for that and still come out on top plus the economy would have generated far more income had we been pro-active rather re-active. Rates would have been impacted more by Byrne land and Mannings plan. We have been ripped off by 3rd rate politicians. If we vote for the idiots again only ourselves to blame..

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:58 you must be joking. People have been complaining for years about the inadequacies of the current theatre and its location. Some of those reasons it should move is made quite apparent in the comment preceding yours. Are you a regular patron of the Civic Theatre?

TAS said...

The problem with the CEP is Manning and Unity. Shier had it right in the first place: on the waterfront, a signature building, our own mini-Opera House, beautiful location and backdrop, a short and pleasant walk from Esplanade cafes and restaurants, and the first thing a visitor would see from a berthing cruise ship. Manning and his hillbilly spoilers cancelled that for God knows what reason (knowing the old bastard, spite most likely) and he has been all-over-the-place since trying to justify his stuff-up; madcap public/private concepts at Aquis and every other harebrained scheme since. Now we are to get a bloody revamp of an old edge-of-town cinema-looking building which is not even fit for purpose.

Is there anyone with the courage to say Shier was right? Are you there Jim Brooks? Get the plans out and take another look, it is the best option to value add some class to this otherwise drab city.

And Manning: you have cost this town dearly!

Anonymous said...

The laughable thing in our region is this - Bligh wanted nothing to do with Manning, Anastasia wants nothing to do with Manning, Abbott wanted nothing to do with Entsch and neither does Turnbull. What does that tell you about Cairns local representatives? They are a first class joke. Queensland is going to be pivotal in the next federal election, and the Liberals particularly know this. With all the talk of regional development, white papers and state and federal funding program's, only an idiot of a regional Mayor couldn't pull in some of that slush money. The state and federal governments are willing to buy our vote and give us money, yet people like Manning and Entsch are incapable of pulling in that coin! What a joke! I don't know how either of these fools dare to show their faces around town, we have the highest fuel prices, insurance, rates and food costs, and Sleepy has done nothing, Migaloo has done nothing. These clowns have helped to stymie our region and set us back 20 years. They aren't qualified enough to get out of bed in the morning let alone lead, represent and develop our region.

The problem with Mayors and Councillors is that they don't get voted in based on ability, they get voted in based on how long they've lived in the region, what shonky deals they have pulled of, what local developers pocket they are in. It's all bullshit, most of these politicians are totally under qualified to run a business let alone an entire region. It's like having a moron who leaves school at Year 12 and still can't read and write become a heart surgeon, the concept is never going to work. It about time we had politiicans in place had a proven track record in business, rather than getting the job because they are a sociopath, crook, or arse licker.

Anonymous said...

14/2/16 12:20 - you said.

"Shier had it right in the first place: on the waterfront"

OMG - It was only there because the Bligh gov "donated" that parcel of waterfront land as the State's contribution to the funding.

What stinks is ...

1. the State put an inflated value of $40 million as their "contribution"
2. the land was not morally Brisbane's to gift - it was previously Cairns Harbour Board controlled land belonging to the people of Cairns.
3. the foundations alone required for Val's CEP on river bank mud would have cost as much as Manning's revamped CPAC.

these are the facts ...

Anonymous said...

Anonymous 13/2/16 06:00

"We've been told for years (going back to the Byrne council) that we need to have more residential development in the CBD. Byrne approved several highrise towers on Grafton, Aplin, Sheridan, and other areas. And this includes Harbour Lights.These units are almost impossible to resell for the owners. The first complaint of course is the shitty construction and poor design".

As someone who has carried out lots of maintenance work on these units, I completely agree.Time and time again these things get built in a hurry, sub-contactors are squeezed for every dollar by the greedy developer, so they cut corners wherever they can, to survive. Result, poorly designed, poorly constructed buildings, which need extensive rep[airs as soon as they are finished. Conveniently the developer will have gone broke by then, as has happened with virtual all unit blocks/towers built before the GFC, leaving the body corporates/ unit owners with massive repair bills. I know of one unit complex in McLeod St. where unit owners where first hit with $ 15,000.00 each to repair leaks all over the building and repairs to common areas plus a similar amount for repairs inside their individual units. Doesn't do much for your investment, does it ? The scumbag developers meanwhile are lying low, working under different names and waiting to emerge in time for the next boom. If you are thinking of buying a unit in the CBD, make sure you have a building inspection carried out and keep in mind that you also have to pay for the upkeep of the entire building.

As for the noise complaints, I'm in two minds about that. I remember the fabulous Sunday Sessions in the corner pub in Port Douglas in the late 80's. Great live music, locals and visitors alike loved it. Then someone built some units nearby. Some of the Southern visitors had fallen in love with the place, bought a unit and moved up. Then they started complaining about the noise,live music was banned and the Sunday Session was dead...

It is unfortunate that the very valid concerns that are being addressed by the proposed liquor law changes are again being used as a political football, instead of being discussed on their merits. It is of course no surprise which side the shock-jock and his mentally challenged listeners are taking.

Anonymous said...

Anon

The state provided 57 million plus the land at peppercorn rent. Why Cairns fails. Politicans feed us different "facts" so I can only guess you are a politican.

NYM said...

Just a little reminder that many of the building products imported from China and Vietnam today, are of inferior quality. I know from speaking with people in the electrical industry that many electrical products now being used by subbies and builders are of grossly inferior design and quality. They all go for the cheaper product too, rather than the German made product which is of a far better quality.

Anonymous said...

Yes, cheap aluminium cladding that catches fire, electric wiring with insulation breaking down (Masters and several others were selling it) and on it goes. Everybody is in a race to the bottom. Funny thing is if you look at how house and unit prices have increased over the past 20 years and then have a look at how sub-contractor rates have barely increased over the same period, something doesn't add up. I suppose those profit margins have to be maintained somehow....

Ken svay said...

It was great that our new PM visited Cairns on Sunday. The Federal Libs keep telling us that the tropics are a priority and Turnbull spending an hour here just shows how serious they are.

shanghai said...

cans punching above its weight again another Chinese new year completed another billion dollars in the coffers and not an airport rep there or fnq tourism rep was sited typical lazy attention seeking knuckle heads go fuck yourselves! no I don't like them

Anonymous said...

It is a pity that Rob Pyne has reacted to the LNP hysteria over the lock out laws. He needs reminding that Mackenzie roared away not for years, but for DECADES about drunken behaviour in the CBD and that politicians were doing nothing about it.

CBD Warrior said...

Well Ken Svay, we sense a little snideness in your comments. Sure, it was only a few hours with "the people". But shit man, that's more time than Entschy has spent working on electorate business!

Anonymous said...

Understand what you are saying Ken Svay. Turnbull shows he is just as useless as his rotund rep Warren 'in the trough' Entsch. What did we actually gain from his taxpayer paid junket that was changed by his visit?

Anonymous said...

When it suited the shock jock he ranted about " a bloodbath on our streets". Now it doesn't suit him anymore, so he has changed his tune and there is no more bloodbath. The term MEDIA WHORE springs to mind.

Anonymous said...

Shanghai say what? But but the tall Irish thing which dabbles in Botox was running around behind the scenes panicking and bellowing like a prize buffoon. Surely that accounts for airport representation? I believe Brown would have been too busy getting his Mercedes polished or striped shirts ironed. Then again he may be in China with his poodle Antonson for the 40th time this year.

Sir cus. said...

Great analysis HBW , heaps of home truths ,brilliant .

Anonymous said...



The man ran over by the police was out clubbing on a bucks night. He appears to have fallen asleep in the driveway of the police station. This just a week after someone lost part of a finger. Lot of lives ruined. Obviously needs more facts to come to light but those that oppose lock out laws need to explain how they can justify no action.

Anonymous said...

Yeah but old mate may have been pissed and lying there since midnight, too early to tell. Either way it shows that Cairns has a hillbilly piss head mentality that needs addressing.

Gavin Bland said...

1. Wrong
2. Inaccurate
3. A Stinking pile of cods wallop

Anonymous said...

The guy didn't come from cairns

Anonymous said...


Just read Sydney has highest hotel occupancy in 20 years so has not hurt tourism for them. All the protests saying it could not be a global city with lock out laws unfounded.